Current firewood prices per m2

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Vedhoggar said:

Ash fresh cut and split Jan -April 2022 moisture content <20%. Sycamore, birch & alder fresh cut and spit Feb 2022 <20%. Scot pine fresh cut and split April was <20% in three months. All wood cut and split as soon as possible in 1m or 0.50m lengths (most max dia 150mm) and top covered with firewood tarp with the short 33cm and 25cm logs stored in slatted sheds or crates. Firewood if had been left in the round would not have been seasoned (<18-20%) by now.

Not forgetting winter felled trees on average have a lower moisture content than actively growing trees.

[Johnpl315]

2 hours ago, MattyF said:

I’ve already cut any wood that we sell but I started again for our own boiler , stacked ash and beech two year old still reading around 40% just sell it back to them in winter as two year old timber, it soon sucks up moisture in December and your back near the weight you weight of had. 

 

Forestry commission blue book quote hardwood dries 5% per 20 days April until September and the 1% per 20 days in the other months. That tallies with my experience. And so timber stacked for three months over the summer will loose 20% which is enough to make a difference between a job being viable or not. Timber on the ground may soak up some moisture in the winter but the majority of the stack won't. 

[Vedhoggar]

49 minutes ago, GarethM said:

What are you trying to prove with your numbers ?.

 

You either sell them or not, it's a buyer's market at the end of the day, you can charge what you like but the old adage stands true. Once bitten twice shy.

 

Conditions favour seller more than buyer of domestic firewood at the moment I would have thought.

[GarethM]

Not really, if the seller is charging what you think is an unreasonable amount they won't buy and will never buy from you again.

 

We all have companies we won't deal with through past experiences.

 

It'll be a flash in the pan short term wise, Eastern Europe is hardly going to sit around before flooding the market in the new year when it's one the their largest exports.

Edited December 13, 2022 by GarethM

[Woodworks]

23 minutes ago, Vedhoggar said:

Conditions favour seller more than buyer of domestic firewood at the moment I would have thought.

Yep. We could sell our stock several times over this year but we are in logs for the long haul so not going to take pee just because we could this year

[MattyF]

2 hours ago, Johnpl315 said:

 

Forestry commission blue book quote hardwood dries 5% per 20 days April until September and the 1% per 20 days in the other months. That tallies with my experience. And so timber stacked for three months over the summer will loose 20% which is enough to make a difference between a job being viable or not. Timber on the ground may soak up some moisture in the winter but the majority of the stack won't. 

I’m pulling the piss mate .. I’ve got two year old wood I cut two three weeks already reading 17% from 35-40 % but point that I was trying to make is the drier it gets or should I say older the more quickly it soaks up moisture if left out side.

Almost all of my timber is on west face stacks on top of a hill so could in theory be well below 20% within one year as I’ve found any thing older than two it’s degraded too quickly, probably from drying out and then getting soaked again continuously. 

[openspaceman]

2 hours ago, Johnpl315 said:

 

Forestry commission blue book quote hardwood dries 5% per 20 days April until September and the 1% per 20 days in the other months. That tallies with my experience. And so timber stacked for three months over the summer will loose 20% which is enough to make a difference between a job being viable or not. Timber on the ground may soak up some moisture in the winter but the majority of the stack won't. 

Isn't that for stacks of roundwood rather than cut and split firewood?

[arboriculturist]

On 13/12/2022 at 12:51, Johnpl315 said:

 

Forestry commission blue book quote hardwood dries 5% per 20 days April until September and the 1% per 20 days in the other months. That tallies with my experience. And so timber stacked for three months over the summer will loose 20% which is enough to make a difference between a job being viable or not. Timber on the ground may soak up some moisture in the winter but the majority of the stack won't. 

 

This must be processed firewood in crates outside not stacked roundwood roadside ?

[Johnpl315]

46 minutes ago, arboriculturist said:

 

This must be processed firewood in crates outside not stacked roundwood roadside ?

This is cordwood at the roadside. The firewood I did this year, cut 305m2 in May, buyer just finished collecting now on tonnage came to less the 200 ton and that's top quality beech firewood. Some would of gone for sawlogs if anyone had wanted and sawlogs.  Won't be doing that again as I would of made more money stacking shelves in tesco

[arboriculturist]

Never ever sell dry processed firewood on tonnage !!! 

 

Sorry to break the news.