Russia Invades ukraine

[topchippyles]

4 hours ago, Big J said:

 

Why exactly is that so wrong? Why is it unreasonable for Ukraine to insist that it's neighbour respects it's internationally recognised borders? Russia is unquestionably the aggressor.

 

But, in the spirit of trying to end the war, I would suggest to Ukraine that it gives up Luhansk, Donbas and Crimea in exchange for the return of all other occupied land, EU and Nato membership and a permanent demilitarised zone, manned with international peacekeepers. 

Putin has his exit ramp, insofar as he can say that he secured those lands for Russia, and Ukraine recovers some of it's sovereign territory and has future security assurances. Though given how the Budapest memorandum wasn't honoured, how much that is worth is debatable. 

 

Either way, a lasting peace isn't going to be acheived by simply giving Russia everything it demands. That would only embolden them to repeat the actions in the future.

 

 

This would be you in the great escape jonathon 😁

[Stubby]

It seems the EU have offered Ukraine a deal on " rare Earths " to counter Trumptons . 

[Big J]

2 hours ago, topchippyles said:

This would be you in the great escape jonathon 😁

 

Forgive me for having not seen the film, so the reference is lost on me