Russia Invades ukraine

[dan blocker]

Trump wants Greenland and has not ruled out using force, he wants Canada to be another state of the USA, he wants to take control of the Panama canal. Don’t think he wants Mexico cos he’s dumping all the Mexicans he doesn’t want back into Mexico. The blokes a crackpot! He’s got a bedfellow in Putin and they both have grand ideas of world domination. Trump wants the best for America in every way and of course under that front he wants the best for Trump. Europe are cacking themselves as one wrong word and Trump will take them down in one way or another. Trumps front is he’s for the working man, this from someone who on more than one occasion went bust on several developments failing to pay hundreds of small contractors? Absolute shitester 😫 in every way. We should have let them go into Iraq and Afghanistan on their own. Europe will have to hope they can manage without the backing of the USA cos they’re about to ride into the sunset?

[Steven P]

"To go to war", only the Russians went to war, The Ukraine didn't go anywhere outside their borders, they were invaded and defended themselves - as any country would and do.

 

"MISSING" money - is that the 100 billion dollars that haven't reached The Ukraine... because they are being spent in the US... giving wages to US citizens to manufacture goods (arms and so on) to send there? That is well documented as accounted for

 

Approval rating, in 2019 (Before Covid which warped things) Trump had a disapproval rating of about 55%

 

Refuses to have elections.. I suspect that there is another reason why The Ukraine has not had elections last year when they were due

 

Millions being killed - best reports suggest about 60,000 Ukrainians have been killed so with Trumps Russia hotline they have lost at least 1,900,000 (millions is more than 1 million of course).. or that 'Millions' is not correct.

[sime42]

He's doubtless been the target of many assassination attempts already. Like any good crackpot dictator though he is hyper-paranoid about it so has escaped this far and as a control freak he's made damn sure no news of any such attempt has been published. Heaven forbid he were to show any human weakness.

 

Also, I suspect that the majority of the Russian people have no idea of the true scope of his horrendous deeds. Such is the scale of media control and propaganda. So maybe, there's not that many of his subjects within the country how actually want to kill him. It's a great shame for the Russian people, and the rest of us, that Putin was able to get to Navalny in the end.

 

 

 

 

[Steven P]

Putin has had a few body doubles in his time, not all assassins do their homework well.

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

 

I didn't realise that defending what is right had a price cap. 

 

Not everything is transactional, not everything is a zero sum game. Sometimes good people just have to stand up against bad people. 

 

I think I feel the most pity for the poor Russian conscripts. At least the Ukranians know what it is they are fighting for. The Russians are fighting a needless war of aggression to fulfill Putin's imperialist fantasies of creating a Greater Russia again.

I'm quite surprised that he's not been the target of assassination attempts yet. Would all this end if Putin died or would something even worse take it's place?

The ball was dropped in 2014 J, the promises made regarding protection and security were forgotten. I’ve mentioned the shit on the boat I was on between pro Russian Ukrainian and Nationalist Ukrainian guys at the time several times previously , the Skipper “ a Canadian “ told them it was their choice leave the boat or leave the political shit on the quayside. 

Not being selective in the blame front but the German governments of that era and its energy policies played a huge part in how  the situation is now. Not sure what you are confused at 42 ? This didn’t start 3 years ago. 

Edited February 19 by Johnsond

[Haironyourchest]

Here's what's going to happen in the next few years, chaps: Russia and USA will become friends. China/Russia/US trifecta. There's your multipolar world order for the remainder of the 21st century. European countries will vote populist right and join the new order as second fiddle or...fade away. And that includes the UK.

 

 

[Mesterh]

Quite possible. Im wondering if the USA will remain the USA or will it break up like USSR did.

 

[sime42]

It's not an altogether preposterous idea it's true. How do you factor in Israel and Iran though? The US and Israel are bezzies, Russia and Iran are bezzies, but Israel and Iran are sworn enemies. That's going to be one big, busy, uncomfortable bed.

 

 

[topchippyles]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

 

I agree that 2014 was the inch that Putin took, that emboldened him to try to take a mile in 2022. 

 

And too much reliance on Russian energy is true as well. Many mistakes made along the way in terms of curtailing and containing Putin, but ultimately, the responsibility for the invasion and all the death falls firmly in his quarter.

Jonathan what is the plan of action if they invade sweden.  

 

Our secret weapon and i am not talking willy size here 😁

 

No doubt with the girls you have seen Dora the Explorer 

 

1) How many hand grenades can you fit in the Lunch box ?

 

2) What about the gun options i look forward to the reply 

[Stubby]

11 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

Jonathan what is the plan of action if they invade sweden.  

 

Our secret weapon and i am not talking willy size here 😁

 

No doubt with the girls you have seen Dora the Explorer 

 

1) How many hand grenades can you fit in the Lunch box ?

 

2) What about the gun options i look forward to the reply 

Do you see " Swiper " ?