£15/hour

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

The whole monetary system is so screwed up it's becoming irrelevant anyway. Fake money, fake value. A European dole bum is "worth" a hundred times more to the global economy than a productive African farmer/miner etc. When humanity figured out how to produce food for thousands of mouths with one man's labour, the whole foundation started to slide. We attribute value wrongly because 99.9% of our "needs" are actually "wants". Why is a dollar worth more than a peso? Because it buys a bigger Mac & Fries? Because you might get bombed if you disagree? Fertile soil, fertile women, fresh water, and manly men with better weapons than the other guys - that's the only true value. **************** it, roll on judgement day.

Amen!

[Haironyourchest]

11 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Of course your point absolutely stands. Everybody pays tax. 
 

What I, probably quite clumsily, failed to articulate might best be described by example. 
 

A chap living ‘off grid’ in the small woodland plot he purchased from woodlandsforsale.scam with solar panels and a compost shitter walking his bin bags the mile or so to the roadside every week for them to be collected by council tax funded bin men. 
 

Not ‘off grid’ just off paying for his share of what the grid provides. 
 

On the one hand - who can criticise him when the rich and powerful are doing it on a much greater scale but what happens when ‘the squeezed middle’ decides *uck it, if the rich and greedy as well as the poor and needy can all take the piss - who’s left to pick up the tab?

What happens indeed? Hope we find out. Stop feeding the beast. Starve the government into oblivion. No more fascist rainbow police - local elected sherrifs and Jonny on the spot, if there's trouble, the lads'll deal with it. No more Facebook and plastic rubbish. Survival of the fittest.

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by Haironyourchest

[eggsarascal]

7 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

What happens indeed? Hope we find out. Stop feeding the beast. Starve the government into oblivion. No more fascist rainbow police - local elected sherrifs and Jonny on the spot, if there's trouble, the lads'll deal with it. No more Facebook and plastic rubbish. Survival of the fittest.

 

Mugged by government at every opportunity, Brexit (I voted for it) has gone wrong, we're now told it's businesses fault for not being prepared. Is that the same businesses that said this would happen?

 

We've been mugged, it isn't the bed of roses we were promised, some jobs are paying more, but we've no fuel (in some parts) and we are going to pay through the teeth for energy over the winter.

 

It's nothing to do with the government though... it's all our fault.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 minute ago, eggsarascal said:

Mugged by government at every opportunity, Brexit (I voted for it) has gone wrong, we're now told it's businesses fault for not being prepared. Is that the same businesses that said this would happen?

 

We've been mugged, it isn't the bed of roses we were promised, some jobs are paying more, but we've no fuel (in some parts) and we are going to pay through the teeth for energy over the winter.

 

It's nothing to do with the government though... it's all our fault.

Put the Coolade down E🍳🍳er!

 

Yome starting to sound like James O'Brien (twat)

[eggsarascal]

10 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Put the Coolade down E🍳🍳er!

 

Yome starting to sound like James O'Brien (twat)

I'm wrong then, we have fuel all over, energy prices won't go up. Face it, 27 drivers from the EU have applied for 5000 job vacancies that we desperately need to fill. It's all businesses fault, nothing to do with the government.

Edited October 5, 2021 by eggsarascal

[difflock]

I admit to being somewhat envious(or is it more correctly jealous, I can never remember) of Mutley's unfettered  lifestyle(and I googled Redfield btw) the one point I cottoned-on to was the "no place for old men" aspect of the arrangement. Yet wider society has to provide for the neer-do-wells, the dregs and the misfits.

A monestery I stayed at was the same, the bloke I spoke with was candid that they would refuse anyone turning up to join up, unless they were young and fit enough to contribute for a good number of years!

Also my exposure to the cynical grant aided nature of some of the Council funded bodies claiming to be "eco friendly" soured me, when they dumped and trashed through stuff like most anybody else, always moving on the the next new thing, and leaving the ratepayer to tidy up their rubbish.

And I was not unaware that most of the residents of Redfield probably pay their taxes, though there is a more than strong possibility some do not, preferring to work for cash in hand.

Cheers,

Marcus,

EDIT.

The ones that boil my piss, are for example, like the young female "social influencer" living somewhere in the hills of Portugal or Spain, "off the grid', which is to say NOT paying taxes, yet no doubt leaving a pile of shite to be tidied up, when they move on, and expecting gold plated Social Welfare when she get older, gets sick or hurts herself.

Pure hypocracy.

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by difflock

[Haironyourchest]

8 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Mugged by government at every opportunity, Brexit (I voted for it) has gone wrong, we're now told it's businesses fault for not being prepared. Is that the same businesses that said this would happen?

 

We've been mugged, it isn't the bed of roses we were promised, some jobs are paying more, but we've no fuel (in some parts) and we are going to pay through the teeth for energy over the winter.

 

It's nothing to do with the government though... it's all our fault.

Nah. You've just been put firmly back in your place by the elite club of plutocrats that rule you (all of us) by consent. Subjects. Subject to their will. Brexit freaked them out, bit on the spicy side for the globalist banking cartel's taste, so it was. Smacked of a peasant's revolt. They co-opted Brexit like they do everything else. The whole world is suffering transport shortages, it's by design. Covid response, if not release, was by design. These people are the most intelligent, cunning and amoral on the planet. I've quit trying to predict the next move or the reasons for the current move, but the general plan is clear. Make humanity suffer until they beg for slavery. Make us accept defeat and the loss of our dreams. Energy rationing, socialist style work allocation, demographic control (eugenics). Ten year plan, fifteen, doesn't matter. Look how they changed the world in 2. They crated an unsustainable system and they're trying to save it from collapse. 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

I'm wrong then, we have fuel all over, energy prices won't go up. Face it, 27 drivers from the EU have applied for 5000 job vacancies that we desperately need to fill. It's all businesses fault, nothing to do with the government.

How about this....

 

'Energy' is, and has been for a long time, too cheap - hence people are wasteful in their consumption of it.  

 

The (small) example I'd use is the MiL moaning about her bills on a fixed income but seemingly incapable of behavioural change to ameliorate consumption.  Example, fill the kettle to the 'king top for 2 cups of tea.  

 

Or, since we only have hot water once a day in this house (and when it's gone its gone) (she hates it, I love it 😆) boiling the kettle (again, topped off to the brim) to wash up 2 cups.  Just leave it all until there is a load - but no, that's not behaviourally possible.

 

There are many ways consumption should / must be reduced if 'we' (humankind) are to live within the means of the planet.

 

That leads us nicely into the fuel shortage you reference.  You know what it means when you run out of something right?  You're using too much.  Good, I'm glad there was a fuel shortage, maybe it will make people treat what they take for granted with a bit more respect and restraint.

 

And finally, yes, it is the fault of business if business fails just like it is the benefit of a business if business succeeds.  27 applicants from the EU is 27 too many whilst there are slackers on the giro that should be doing the work.

 

 

[eggsarascal]

Energy is cheap is it, £97 for a 47kg of gas that lasts about 2 weeks, cheap as chips mate.

 

Your MiL is a fool to boil a full kettle for 2 drinks.

 

Do you not know I think consumption should be reduced living in a box?

 

We aren't using to much, its dickheads filling tanks that they don't need right now.

 

It's nothing to do with government if we can't find the drivers to deliver our goods in the UK. Where are the drivers we need then?

 

Look at what's going on around us.. the, "I'm alright jack" attitude won't go on forever.

[doobin]

5 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Energy is cheap is it, £97 for a 47kg of gas that lasts about 2 weeks, cheap as chips mate.

 

Your MiL is a fool to boil a full kettle for 2 drinks.

 

Do you not know I think consumption should be reduced living in a box?

 

We aren't using to much, its dickheads filling tanks that they don't need right now.

 

It's nothing to do with government if we can't find the drivers to deliver our goods in the UK. Where are the drivers we need then?

 

Look at what's going on around us.. the, "I'm alright jack" attitude won't go on forever.

How does 47kg of gas last you only two weeks? I take it you're using it for heating?

 

47kg of gas lasts me about a year at the yard, doing hot water for the kitchen. Before I started taking cold showers, it would still last me half a year (a shower every day, I like to go home fresh and clean and keep the mucky clothes at the yard. Makes for an easier home life!)

 

If I were you I'd look at fitting a log burner. Gas fires are **************** all use for heating a caravan- you want a nice lump of steel log burner/heatsink, and you could run it for free too. Doesn't take much wood to heat a small space like that until you need to open the windows.