£15/hour

[muttley9050]

I admit to being somewhat envious(or is it more correctly jealous, I can never remember) of Mutley's unfettered  lifestyle(and I googled Redfield btw) the one point I cottoned-on to was the "no place for old men" aspect of the arrangement. Yet wider society has to provide for the neer-do-wells, the dregs and the misfits.
A monestery I stayed at was the same, the bloke I spoke with was candid that they would refuse anyone turning up to join up, unless they were young and fit enough to contribute for a good number of years!
Also my exposure to the cynical grant aided nature of some of the Council funded bodies claiming to be "eco friendly" soured me, when they dumped and trashed through stuff like most anybody else, always moving on the the next new thing, and leaving the ratepayer to tidy up their rubbish.
And I was not unaware that most of the residents of Redfield probably pay their taxes, though there is a more than strong possibility some do not, preferring to work for cash in hand.
Cheers,
Marcus,
EDIT.
The ones that boil my piss, are for example, like the young female "social influencer" living somewhere in the hills of Portugal or Spain, "off the grid', which is to say NOT paying taxes, yet no doubt leaving a pile of shite to be tidied up, when they move on, and expecting gold plated Social Welfare when she get older, gets sick or hurts herself.
Pure hypocracy.
 
 
 

The not paying taxes is a fallacy. We all work and all pay our dues..
I pay plenty.
The no room for old men again is something some of you have assumed /invented. It simply doesn't exist.

[doobin]

Muttley's setup sounds pretty cool. I've always thought that a big house split between a few families could provide a much better standard of living for less cost than the norm, so long as it wasn't too 'culty'. Economies of scale really kick in when you get into double digit bedroms! Sounds like there is ample room for personal enterprise too.

 

I've lived in house shares in the country and if you have the right people it's great. Perhaps there are not too many older people because they buy their own place with the money they save?

 

Muttley, are any of your members also renting their own houses out, or is that against the ethos?

[Stubby]

5 minutes ago, doobin said:

 

 

Muttley, are any of your members also renting their own houses out, or is that against the ethos?

Good question doobs !

[trigger_andy]

This to me shows how cheap food, fuel and virtual slave labour is around the world. Thats about 50p worth in the picture. 

 

 

[muttley9050]

47kg of gas last about 2 week, 3 at a push through winter, heating, cooking and water.

Surprised you haven't got a lpg refillable bottle. Much cheaper.

[muttley9050]

Im so glad we added a Wood Burning Oven in the kitchen and a 280 liter hot water cylinder. Hot water 24/7 and it costs me nothing.  
 
Interestingly I see a Miller up North is selling 1.5t of Larch Backs for £100. I easily go through a cube a week just now. Would be crippling having to pay for that myself. Id have to stop swanning around the house in my boxers. 

I was beginning to like you but no avocado on toast. Get real 🤣

[muttley9050]

You’re quite correct. It does cost me my time. But looking at the numbers it’s certainly worth it. Perhaps I should have said the wood costs me nothing.
 
50 cubes at current local market prices is £5000. It takes me a comfortable 10 days to have that bagged up. After tax I’m not gonna make that kind of money unless I’m working 10 days over time off-shore. So nicer to do a hobby that I like and be home all day long working with my family. Plus I have to deal with the wood either way. I don’t really count a hobby as taking time away from work either.

Exactly the point I was making to you.

[Richard 1234]

4 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

This to me shows how cheap food, fuel and virtual slave labour is around the world. Thats about 50p worth in the picture. 

 

 

That’s bloody stupid. Who can possibly think that’s a good idea!

[muttley9050]

Muttley's setup sounds pretty cool. I've always thought that a big house split between a few families could provide a much better standard of living for less cost than the norm, so long as it wasn't too 'culty'. Economies of scale really kick in when you get into double digit bedroms! Sounds like there is ample room for personal enterprise too.
 
I've lived in house shares in the country and if you have the right people it's great. Perhaps there are not too many older people because they buy their own place with the money they save?
 
Muttley, are any of your members also renting their own houses out, or is that against the ethos?

Yeah some do. I did for a few years but didn't like being a landlord so sold it.

[Retired Climber]

4 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

That’s bloody stupid. Who can possibly think that’s a good idea!

An accountant.