£15/hour

[muttley9050]

Well obviously ignoring the essential travel required to get to the Installation. 
 
Your point was that in your opinion my commute to Norway was unsustainable but we’ve now learned it’s comparable with a fairly normal office commute. It’s also on a par with many Norwegians who don’t live on the west coast. 
 
Aberdeen to Stavanger = 1 hour
Aberdeen to Bergen = 1 hour
Oslo to Stavanger = 1 hour. 
 
But Norway is a very long country. The flight time alone from Hammerfest to Stavanger is over 4 hours. We have many employees dotted around the remote parts of Norway. 
 
Seems like Im quite the green Employee being just an hour away from hop off point. [emoji16]

I agree your greener than some of your colleagues. I still don't see it as sustainable in the grand scheme of things,

[trigger_andy]

Just now, muttley9050 said:

I agree your greener than some of your colleagues. I still don't see it as sustainable in the grand scheme of things,

We need oil, we need gas. Both have been in the recent news regarding their supply and delivery. Our dependency on both will see my working life out. You use your fair share of the products I help produce as does everyone else on here. 
 

We’ve covered how my carbon footprint is on a par with many U.K. office commuters. I have a feeling my footprint is less than quite a few here as well. 
 

You really can’t expect every oil and gas worker to live within 30 miles of a Heli-port surely? If you think my commute is bad we have plenty Cementers who live in the US and commute to Norway. 😁

 

In the grand scheme of things me traveling to work is quite insignificant. Im

a key worker don’t you know.  

[muttley9050]

Most of us are key workers when it comes to it

[trigger_andy]

5 hours ago, muttley9050 said:

Most of us are key workers when it comes to it

Not when it comes to international travel during a pandemic though. 

[Retired Climber]

7 hours ago, muttley9050 said:

Most of us are key workers when it comes to it

I was having that conversation with someone the other day. There are very few people who aren't key workers if you think enough about it. One of few we could think of was me; everyone else seems quite important. 

[AHPP]

I was having that conversation with someone the other day. There are very few people who aren't key workers if you think enough about it. One of few we could think of was me; everyone else seems quite important. 

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How about this idea not saying its right just putting it up as a counter point of view

 

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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

11 hours ago, difflock said:

What happens when you’re too old or too frail to be a contributing member of your commune? Do you get reduced hours dropping off to zero the older you get? 

 

Hmmmm?

Or do they be dumped onto the common purse to be provided for, after not "working for the man" or paying taxes?

A comunderum indeed.

You've hit upon my main 'issue' with voluntary drop out of society type lifestyles - and I do not mean any offence by the term drop-out.

 

I rather admire the truly self sustaining.

 

That said, I rather despise those claim to be self sustaining and drop the 'commitment' elements of a society (like paying taxes) but still cling to the 'benefits' such as school, roads, libraries, police, NHS and the more general 'freedoms' to enjoy such a lifestyle which have been borne out of generations of sacrifice from the many.

 

I guess it's kind of why anarchy has a certain appeal to me.  Nobody pays in and nobody takes out.  Everyone genuinely has to take responsibility for them self.  There would be a sudden, massive reduction in the number of those that 'take' from society but provide nothing into it.   

 

 

[Haironyourchest]

2 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

You've hit upon my main 'issue' with voluntary drop out of society type lifestyles - and I do not mean any offence by the term drop-out.

 

I rather admire the truly self sustaining.

 

That said, I rather despise those claim to be self sustaining and drop the 'commitment' elements of a society (like paying taxes) but still cling to the 'benefits' such as school, roads, libraries, police, NHS and the more general 'freedoms' to enjoy such a lifestyle which have been borne out of generations of sacrifice from the many.

 

I guess it's kind of why anarchy has a certain appeal to me.  Nobody pays in and nobody takes out.  Everyone genuinely has to take responsibility for them self.  There would be a sudden, massive reduction in the number of those that 'take' from society but provide nothing into it.   

 

 

Everybody pays taxes. 24% on everything we buy, pretty much. Carbon taxes on fuel, council taxes, fag taxes, booze taxes, etc etc... What do you say to those who don't earn enough to incur an income tax liability yet pay their minimal social insurance? They get the benefits of a pension, disability allowance, dole possibly, etc? 

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[eggsarascal]

2 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

You've hit upon my main 'issue' with voluntary drop out of society type lifestyles - and I do not mean any offence by the term drop-out.

 

I rather admire the truly self sustaining.

 

That said, I rather despise those claim to be self sustaining and drop the 'commitment' elements of a society (like paying taxes) but still cling to the 'benefits' such as school, roads, libraries, police, NHS and the more general 'freedoms' to enjoy such a lifestyle which have been borne out of generations of sacrifice from the many.

 

I guess it's kind of why anarchy has a certain appeal to me.  Nobody pays in and nobody takes out.  Everyone genuinely has to take responsibility for them self.  There would be a sudden, massive reduction in the number of those that 'take' from society but provide nothing into it.   

 

 

Hang on, how can anyone truly drop out and not use roads? Schools, NHS yes. Do we still have libraries? Most around here have closed, unless you call the bus that comes around once a fortnight a library.