Red diesel availability?

[swinny]

43 minutes ago, LGP Eddie said:

Why would you put white in it?

Basically admitted you think it’s not Ag/Forestry use, and the lid is off the can of worms then.

 

Exactly it's blatant admission

[swinny]

I wish we could all come together to talk about this sensibly rather then tit for tat.... as alwaysnits non tractor users vs tractor users. 

 

Not constructive at all

[LGP Eddie]

15 minutes ago, swinny said:

I wish we could all come together to talk about this sensibly rather then tit for tat.... as alwaysnits non tractor users vs tractor users. 

 

Not constructive at all

They had the opportunity to ban Red diesel use right across the board and then have Agriculture claim a rebate back in relation to their farm size.

Thus preventing people with a few acres running a fleet of kit off it, and claiming Ag use for it all.

 

This would have reset things a little bit on all levels, as Tractors on white and no way to claim anything back will soon have guys looking for other solutions, they’re so thirsty.

 

Those simply farming wouldn’t be penalised at all.

 

 

[aspenarb]

There are no "grey areas", tractors/fasttracs/mogs can't be used to haul plant/machinery or goods unless plated, run on white and used  under Olicense rules. A mog/tractor/fastrack or correctly registered 4x4 truck/pickup with a pto driven chipper up its chuff is within the rules if working within forestry/ag/hort but restrictions apply. There is enough slack been cut for ag/forsetry/hort but not so sure about domestic arb.

 

Bob

[woody paul]

1 hour ago, aspenarb said:

There are no "grey areas", tractors/fasttracs/mogs can't be used to haul plant/machinery or goods unless plated, run on white and used  under Olicense rules. A mog/tractor/fastrack or correctly registered 4x4 truck/pickup with a pto driven chipper up its chuff is within the rules if working within forestry/ag/hort but restrictions apply. There is enough slack been cut for ag/forsetry/hort but not so sure about domestic arb.

 

Bob

So we need to abide by, 

Tractors and regulatory requirements: a brief guide September 2017 - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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Unless they have been updated. 

Speed is the many thing looking at it with test. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by woody paul

[doobin]

1 minute ago, woody paul said:

So we need to abide by, 

Tractors and regulatory requirements: a brief guide September 2017 - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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Unless they have been updated. 

Speed is the many thing looking at it with rest. 

It’s there in black and white mate. Category f is licence to drive *agricultural* tractors. Anything other than a narrow list of agricultural exemptions needs an o license. 

[Baldbloke]

Having worked in quarries in the past I don’t think people realise how much diesel is used to power all the site traffic and plant. Come April when that requires white diesel to be used is going to heavily impact on construction costs.

[Justme]

On 04/12/2021 at 16:48, woody paul said:

 

 

23 hours ago, woody paul said:

Yes big grey area, but the government has made it easier with stating you must use white so one grey area cleared up. 

Insurance we sort it and get right cover. 

Licence well tractor is a tractor and drive it at young age. 

It will be interesting what the out come will be when all the parts above us all have no idea. 

Whilst a tractor is a tractor its the use of that tractor that defines which licence you need.

 

Your cat F licence does not cover using the tractor for non Ari type uses.

 

I have attached a conversation I had with a Barrister re this issue a few years back.

Tractors for non Agri use.docx

[Sutton]

Interesting Posts from Eddie and Bob.

 

I'll say what we do (on a much smaller scale than before) regarding tractor road usage traveling for work in forestry.

When I set out from the yard to work in harvesting/forwarding then IMO rebated fuel is OK.

If I return by road without logs I'm OK.

But if haul timber using rebated fuel then I'm non-compliant and could be fined.

 

I can't speak for those whose business is in residential or municipal (e.g. roadside verges and parks etc)

 

If you believe I'm wrong, please say

[Justme]

This happened locally a few years back.

 

https://www.facebook.com/NWPRPU/posts/944191632421173

 

 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Justme