BREXIT Import of Kiln dried logs

[Sophia81]

Hi All,

Sorry if I have missed a conversation on this topic. 

Who of you will try to do the import declaration of logs using the CHIEF software? Or are you opting for freight forwarders to do it?

 

I'm just thinking I can't be that hard to declare it yourself if only importing logs...

What is the cost of the Software? and if anybody has set it up...was it pretty easy?

 

Thank you for your help!

All the best and Happy xmas

Sophia

Edited December 18, 2020 by Sophia81

[Alycidon]

I only bring in  couple of containers a year,  but cant get any new supplies until late Feb at best so will just sell seasoned for the rest of the winter,  thus my next container will arrive in June by which time the dust should have settled.

 

Containerships who handle the shipping have brokers so will use them certainly to start with to handle the import declarations, cant see that there will much if any cost.   

 

You will also have seen the UK requirement from Jan1 that all packing crates must be marked as heat treated,   one company I use were heat treating but not marking but they are now changing that.

 

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[doobin]

Maybe we could use home grown timber instead of adding massively to the carbon footprint by importing such a simple commodity and laughably branding in ‘renewable’. Just a thought. 

[Alycidon]

51 minutes ago, doobin said:

Maybe we could use home grown timber instead of adding massively to the carbon footprint by importing such a simple commodity and laughably branding in ‘renewable’. Just a thought. 

Good idea,  if I can buy it at the right price.  Its not viable to pay £80 a ton plus VAT for cord to make 2 x cube,  cut it up, season it,  deliver it , pay for vented bags, and then charge a price that competes with the web.    I have seen seasoned at £60 a cube for hard wood,   might all be pop agreed.   I can make money selling imported crates and I can get £600 worth onto my trailer,  for loose seasoned wood a load is worth £250 as it takes far more space.

 

I do sell seasoned yes, mainly fallen timber from my brothers farm but the market is changing towards kiln dried rapidly,  dont really know why but it is.

 

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[struie]

35 minutes ago, Alycidon said:

Good idea,  if I can buy it at the right price.  Its not viable to pay £80 a ton plus VAT for cord to make 2 x cube,  cut it up, season it,  deliver it , pay for vented bags, and then charge a price that competes with the web.    I have seen seasoned at £60 a cube for hard wood,   might all be pop agreed.   I can make money selling imported crates and I can get £600 worth onto my trailer,  for loose seasoned wood a load is worth £250 as it takes far more space.

 

I do sell seasoned yes, mainly fallen timber from my brothers farm but the market is changing towards kiln dried rapidly,  dont really know why but it is.

 

A

think they call it,  sucked in.

[Stubby]

1 hour ago, Alycidon said:

 

 

 the market is changing towards kiln dried rapidly,  dont really know why but it is.

 

A

People brain washed . They think that kiln dried to 20% mc is somehow dryer than air dried to 20% mc. were in reality the air dried is probably better as the guts of the wood has not been forced out of it .

[Vedhoggar]

1 hour ago, Stubby said:

People brain washed . They think that kiln dried to 20% mc is somehow dryer than air dried to 20% mc. were in reality the air dried is probably better as the guts of the wood has not been forced out of it .

Stopped selling kiln dried firewood a few years back as the air dried wood at <20% MC actually burned better than the kiln dried stuff and also works out considerably cheaper, nobody ever asks for kiln dried wood. Don’t buy in wood only standing or at rideside and locally sourced. 

[neiln]

Presumably kiln drying forces some of the more volatile turps/resins out of the wood, and hence a lot of energy.

[Stere]

Inetresting didn't think that happened much  unless you made charcoal but seem it maybe corect.

 

 

https://www.nrem.iastate.edu/class/assets/for486/Readings/Emissions from Wood Drying.pdf

[openspaceman]

6 hours ago, neiln said:

Presumably kiln drying forces some of the more volatile turps/resins out of the wood, and hence a lot of energy.

I shouldn't think there is much loss of energy in VOCs emitted till you get above 120C.