Brexit and the arb industry.

[Rough Hewn]

Really? Not that well thought-out is it?
1) Yep not everything is right in the UK... But the whole EU Gravy-Train has become a total lunacy situation that has worked against the UK for year.....
2) A good business will pay a fair wage... But if you want paying for doing nothing need I say more.. If you don't like working for someone else or a business. Try working for yourself... Then welcome to the real world.
3) Affordable Housing.... Yep fair point.... But there are areas of the country where housing is very cheap. You could move.
4) Minimum wage... Interesting point as it was the UK that brought that in to raise wages. Many EU countries don't have it. It is not an EU ruling.... So no change.
5) The working time directive was EU but the UK has added extra to it so we have a higher standard than many EU countries.
6) Yep if Russia launched all their missiles then yes there is a good chance that we will be wiped out. But all that contamination in the atmosphere would travel around the world and affect them.. Then add in the US, EU, NATO response and Russia will be gone as well...
At least you won't have anything to worry about.

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3 I did. 🤣
4 nope.
5 nope.
6 nope
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[Rough Hewn]

Oh dear, you are simple wrong. Having worked for the EU, I would have thought you would know the facts? What were you doing? 
 
 
The EU still does not have a mandatory minimum wage.
 
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2020/658208/IPOL_ATA(2020)658208_EN.pdf
 
 
We are world leaders on animal welfare, unlike many EU countries. 

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I stated which department I worked for.

That’s pets only.
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[skyhuck]

Just now, Rough Hewn said:

I stated which department I worked for.

That’s pets only.

You think farm animals are pets?

[Rough Hewn]

I dont think being chased by a dog and the production of Foie gras are in the same league. 
 
But if thats the best example you can come back with I'll say my assumption was right and we do indeed having  significantly animal welfare than on the Continent. 

I’m reading my ten year old daughter animal farm by Orwell.
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[Stubby]

8 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

If we are that bad here in the UK why are there so many immigrants risking their lives to get to our shores? They literally have to walk past most of the Northern European Countries to get to the UK, or at least they could find a safe land route to anywhere in Northern Europe that does not involve dinghies in freezing winter temperatures. 

 

 

They like a challenge .

[Rough Hewn]

You think farm animals are pets?

Your post?

[Khriss]

1 minute ago, Stubby said:

They like a challenge .

Yea cos struggling out of a war zone, starving with yr kids strapped to you, just nothing compared to tackling British Bullshit Beuerocracy  😉 K

[Jamie Jones]

8 hours ago, Big J said:

Also utter nonsense. 

 

Functionally, Britain is the poor man of Northern Europe. We work the longest hours, we are the least productive. We live in the poorest (and most expensive) houses, drive on the poorest roads, use the most expensive railway system in the world, have the poorest access to green space, have terrible employment rights (zero hours contracts, for example), have poorer parental leave, poorer tenant rights, some of the worst cancer survival rates in Europe, have a failing and increasingly privatised educational system and increasingly wealth inequality.

 

Britain would do far better if it dropped the pretense of being 'Great'. It's exasperating listening to Brexiteers drivel on about recapturing the wartime spirit and how wonderful and utopian Britain is. It's almost as if they've not been to other countries.

We may have some of the worst political leaders...
But being part of the EU has not done us any favours. We have given too much to be on a so called level playing field that has been anything but level... 
Fishing... We have the best fishing waters and have far more than other countries... We used to have a fishing fleet as well... Now many of our fishing ports lay empty while European fishing boat fish our waters.
We had the best and Highest quality Steel manufacturing in Europe. Some of it was closed as a result of giving German industry the opportunity to develop.
Our NHS is far better than some EU countries, but not at the top of the league.
Poorest Parenting: Blame the parents not the government.
The Education system would be better perhaps if the parents were better and installed a better sense of discipline and respect in the children.
The UK's biggest problem is we don't manufacture that much any more... Why? Historically the Unions saw the industrial leaders as the enemy and wouldn't work with them. Where as in Germany the Unions worked with the industrial leaders and that's why they beat us hands down. The Workers, Bosses, Unions are all working for the same goals. Where as it became so toxic in the UK that manufactures moved there activities off shore and the jobs all went... 
Then there is the youth of today that would rather stay at home on their xboxes instead of going out and working.. The UK got into a depend on the state ideology and and we have a weak work force.
That is why so many people from across Europe have been able to do so we over here. They have a better work ethic. The last three people I have given employment to have not lasted more than tree months at best.. 
I would be more than happy to employ someone from the EU and I would expect that they would earn more working for me.

[trigger_andy]

6 minutes ago, Stubby said:

They like a challenge .

Certainly makes more sense than the other explanation.  

[Stubby]

1 minute ago, trigger_andy said:

Certainly makes more sense than the other explanation.  

You could make it into one those TV things , like  " Total Wipe Out " or Ninja Warrior " ...