Brexit and the arb industry.

[TIMON]

That was the "Withdrawal agreement" not Brexit.
In the withdrawal agreement both parties agreed to negotiate "in good faith" the EU have unfortunately failed to do so.

Unfortunately but very predictably....

[Rough Hewn]

Sorry but I have to disagree.

I honestly think if we all pull together, we can make this country great again and reclaim our identity. From, manufacturing to construction to everything else, instead of people saying no we can't do it, to saying yes we can do it, then sooner the better.

Do you really believe Britain isn’t as corrupt as the EU?
That kind benevolent business will lift up the working man?
Affordable housing?
Healthcare, education?
Wait til there’s no minimum wage,
Maximum working hours etc.

Have you ever heard of the strategic Russian strike ability?
Europe and America would be destroyed completely.
Russian would suffer 15-25% losses as the country is so vast, and there manufacturing spread out.

[skyhuck]

1 hour ago, Rough Hewn said:

Do you really believe Britain isn’t as corrupt as the EU?
That kind benevolent business will lift up the working man?
Affordable housing?
Healthcare, education?
Wait til there’s no minimum wage,
Maximum working hours etc.

Have you ever heard of the strategic Russian strike ability?
Europe and America would be destroyed completely.
Russian would suffer 15-25% losses as the country is so vast, and there manufacturing spread out.

 

Utter nonsense.

 

Do you know the minimum wage rate in many parts of the EU? Plus it was not implemented by the EU. It was brought in by a British government. We opted out of the maximum working hours directive, so what's going to change? 

 

We are generally way ahead of most of the EU on workers rights, animal welfare, food standards etc, etc....

 

The idea that the EU has somehow enforced improvements on the UK is just more remoaner propaganda.

 

You really think Russia wants mutually assured destruction? and if so why now? 

[Steve Bullman]

12 minutes ago, Big J said:

It's almost as if they've not been to other countries.

It also sounds like you've not been to other countries!

 

My girlfriend is from Italy. She would tell you the exact opposite of what you have just said. And thats from someone who has actually lived both countries.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Steve Bullman said:

It also sounds like you've not been to other countries!

 

My girlfriend is from Italy. She would tell you the exact opposite of what you have just said. And thats from someone who has actually lived both countries.

I think J is just cherry picking Scandinavia and Germany.  

 

He is right in that sense though, we are a long way behind Germany and Scandinavia. But being in the EU did not help that one bit did it?  We where still the poor man of Europe.  Perhaps being out of the EU wont make much of a change in that regard either so its kind of a moot point really. 

[Steve Bullman]

Just now, trigger_andy said:

I think J is just cherry picking Scandinavia and Germany.

Yes, I kinda gathered his sweeping generalisation was based on a couple of countries.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Big J said:

I did say Northern Europe....

If we are that bad here in the UK why are there so many immigrants risking their lives to get to our shores? They literally have to walk past most of the Northern European Countries to get to the UK, or at least they could find a safe land route to anywhere in Northern Europe that does not involve dinghies in freezing winter temperatures. 

 

 

[AHPP]

Despite many reasons to not love England, I love England. We’re only the poor man of Europe in the same way some old-money gentry looks poor because the jacket that his great grandfather gave him is tied up with the string that his grandfather gave him. We’ve got wealth (and class, and grit, and guile) in spades.

[AHPP]

I even love Sunderland.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Big J said:

The UK has a culturally engrained status amongst many countries as being a hub of prosperity. I think it harks back to when we were a major collonial power. Also, English is the language most likely to be spoken by immigrants coming to Europe, so it's just easier I suppose. 

 

I really think a lot of them would have serious reservations about getting onto a RIB at Calais if they knew they were going to end up in Sunderland!!

Maybe, I dont quite buy that though. 

 

They very rarely speak English, they all seem to migrate to where there is other immigrants have already set up their ghetto's and they all seem to have smart phones so I doubt they dont know what they are expecting when they land here. I think they know exactly what they're coming to when they risk it all in the RIBs. 

 

Perhaps its not quite as Rosey on the Continent after all?