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Just now, Billhook said:

Another brilliant example of no joined up handwriting is our Japanese import Volvo RHD which has a speedo in KPH but fuel consumption is measured in a slightly more logical Km/litre rather than the stupid litres/100km in Europe.  The former system becomes much easier to read as economy improves whereas the latter starts to go into small fractions.

I prefer a dial with a needle / pointer that goes from Full to Empty .

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10 hours ago, Macpherson said:

Except to say that it's a very long time since any independent scientist had a voice.....they're now known as  conspiracists.

Is there such a thing as an independent scientist ?...after all they mostly work for the massive conscienceless corporations that, to me, are fecking this world

You cannot have a biased scientist , as all work is evidence based, peer reviewed, etc. Any scientist not using correct methods or postulating error will not be a scientist. Or certainly not get far. Error is the key here. You publish a paper and indicate the margins of error. If small and within a limit that proves the result , yr there. It's beyond most of the Public to get this, but then people want answers NOW , which ain't scientific.  K

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You cannot have a biased scientist , as all work is evidence based, peer reviewed, etc. Any scientist not using correct methods or postulating error will not be a scientist. Or certainly not get far. Error is the key here. You publish a paper and indicate the margins of error. If small and within a limit that proves the result , yr there. It's beyond most of the Public to get this, but then people want answers NOW , which ain't scientific.  K


In an ideal world maybe. But we don’t live in an ideal world....

I can think of many instances where bias runs alongside science.
‘Scientism’ - the new religion - I think of people like Dawkins and Krauss.... plenty of bias going on there.
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@TIMON  , it's the nature of the beast,  anyone can be a scientist - but you WILL have yr evidence n theories examined.  Just read DR Rowe work on early radar and scientific 'intelligence' at which he proved himself outstandingly good. 'But' some people did not accept it at the time , Churchill would not have a word said against him.   K

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10 hours ago, Khriss said:

You cannot have a biased scientist , as all work is evidence based, peer reviewed,

I totally agree with you that that's the way it should be, but in practice I don't think so....Far too much money involved.

Half the world addicted to pain killers and the other half on anti deps all approved  by 

' science '....  my ass !!

So GSK, Monsanto etc have our's and the planet's best interests at heart.....I don't think so, 'make em sick and keep em sick' is their motto and they've been doing it for a very long time, so fecking long that it's now the accepted norm....There's trillions of $$$  at stake and I'm just super glad that up to now I've avoided their shit.....ffs look at the state of the younger generations , they're completely f-cked up.      imo, 

 

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34 minutes ago, Macpherson said:

I totally agree with you that that's the way it should be, but in practice I don't think so....Far too much money involved.

Half the world addicted to pain killers and the other half on anti deps all approved  by 

' science '....  my ass !!

So GSK, Monsanto etc have our's and the planet's best interests at heart.....I don't think so, 'make em sick and keep em sick' is their motto and they've been doing it for a very long time, so fecking long that it's now the accepted norm....There's trillions of $$$  at stake and I'm just super glad that up to now I've avoided their shit.....ffs look at the state of the younger generations , they're completely f-cked up.      imo, 

 

I am talking about actual science. The science that put us on the moon and split the atom. Vague or opinionated evidence cannot do that. The numbers HAVE to add up. Or failure occurs. What gets talked abt here is opinion or guess work ( which sometimes has to do)  but jobs, lives and hospitals are on the line because of it.  K

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