Lockdown - has it totally failed?

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, Khriss said:

 

That's the spirit!

[Khriss]

Its compounded by the ' just in time' model and flexible  ( read - we will use you then bin you when we like)  working / zero hours contracts.  This means that there is no foundations and little reserves to carry company's through lean times - add the screw up of Brexit and its a Iceberg heading fr yr hull. K

[TIMON]

‘Modern man has both feet planted firmly in mid-air’
Francis Schaeffer

This quote (which was originally a dig at post-modernism and relativism) really sums up the current global state of affairs during this pandemic.

Scientists, Governments, the media, protest movements, society.... everyone...the whole lot of us.

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, TIMON said:

‘Modern man has both feet planted firmly in mid-air’
Francis Schaeffer

This quote (which was originally a dig at post-modernism and relativism) really sums up the current global state of affairs during this pandemic.

Scientists, Governments, the media, protest movements, society.... everyone...the whole lot of us.

I'm inclined to believe the scientists.
They tend to provide sources for their reasoning.

[TIMON]

I'm inclined to believe the scientists.
They tend to provide sources for their reasoning.

I’m definitely not inclined Mark....particularly Dr Fauci, he is on record multiple times contradicting himself, stating that CV-19 was not going to be a big deal.......
That the virus definitely wasn’t from the Wuhan lab (the very same one he was funding, to conduct c-virus experiments, coincidentally)

And the WHO led by Tedros, who wanted to appoint Robert Mugabe as a goodwill ambassador (hard to believe, but true) but instead, settled on a Chinese propaganda official.

Do you really trust these people Mark? I had you down as being a bit more savvy than that...

[Mark J]

1 minute ago, TIMON said:

 

I’m definitely not inclined Mark....particularly Dr Fauci, he is on record multiple times contradicting himself, stating that CV-19 was not going to be a big deal.......
That the virus definitely wasn’t from the Wuhan lab (the very same one he was funding, to conduct c-virus experiments, coincidentally)

And the WHO led by Tedros, who wanted to appoint Robert Mugabe as a goodwill ambassador (hard to believe, but true) but instead, settled on a Chinese propaganda official.

Do you really trust these people Mark? I had you down as being a bit more savvy than that...

Mate, Dr Fauci, is an American advisor. I'm more interested in what is going on over here.
Do you think Trump is a Christian? I think he's a fraud.

And aye, I do believe in science because it's easy to prove or disprove things by applying the same models and seeing if the results tally.

I'm not about to believe people who said a month ago that the 'R' has to drop below a certain level, only to renege on that and say that now their 5 tests have been satisfied, lets all make some bubbles.
 

[TIMON]

Mate, Dr Fauci, is an American advisor. I'm more interested in what is going on over here.

Do you think Trump is a Christian? I think he's a fraud.

 

And aye, I do believe in science because it's easy to prove or disprove things by applying the same models and seeing if the results tally.

 

I'm not about to believe people who said a month ago that the 'R' has to drop below a certain level, only to renege on that and say that now their 5 tests have been satisfied, lets all make some bubbles.

 

 

Dr Fauci is more than an advisor, he is a major stakeholder in US ‘Big Pharma’ a murky world if ever there was one...

 

As to whether Trump is a Christian.... I can’t answer you with absolute certainty... I’m not quite sure what your understanding of ‘what makes someone a Christian?, is....

(A sinner saved by grace perhaps?)

 

I agree that the UK Governments handling of the situation hasn’t been all that it could have been.

In order to judge them objectively we need a reference point... and there isn’t one..

I kind of lost interest when the very same people baying for Dominic Cumming’s head on a platter were out ‘protesting’ shoulder to shoulder days later.

 

I’m getting very sick of the division and hate in society.

[Mark J]

12 minutes ago, TIMON said:

 

Dr Fauci is more than an advisor, he is a major stakeholder in US ‘Big Pharma’ a murky world if ever there was one...

 

As to whether Trump is a Christian.... I can’t answer you with absolute certainty... I’m not quite sure what your understanding of ‘what makes someone a Christian?, is....

(A sinner saved by grace perhaps?)

 

I agree that the UK Governments handling of the situation hasn’t been all that it could have been.

In order to judge them objectively we need a reference point... and there isn’t one..

I kind of lost interest when the very same people baying for Dominic Cumming’s head on a platter were out ‘protesting’ shoulder to shoulder days later.

 

I’m getting very sick of the division and hate in society.

Me too.
You must remember though that the people doing their VE celebrations and jaunts to the beach will have caused a similar spike. Cummings has alot to answer for. Which he never will answer for.
Try and stay away from extreme publications on the net.

 

[TIMON]

Me too.

Try and stay away from extreme publications on the net.

 

I can’t seem to help myself Mark, I’m always taking a curious look at CNN and NYT. [emoji51]

[Mark J]

20 minutes ago, TIMON said:

 

I can’t seem to help myself Mark, I’m always taking a curious look at CNN and NYT.

I tend to ignore the US news, when possible, and focus on issues closer to home.