Covid-19

[Mark J]

2 hours ago, drinksloe said:

The thing with NZ is how do they go forward do they keep orders locked forever? Or only open to Oz?

 

This virus will not just die out, globally I'm sure will be flare ups for a long time to come.

While NZ have always had a strict immigration policy it only takes 1 on a flight to spread it, esp with 30% showing no symptoms at all.

If a few get throu it will spread quickly in the population as no previous exposure to virus.

I'm sure they will jump on it quickly, but how many times can u go into lock down.

 

As someone said earlier u could probably not pick 2 different countries to compare, UK or more London ISA global hub with lots of folk passing throu.

 

Scotland to NZ might be a more similar comparision, similar population, still more space in NZ thou and I bet deaths are more similar.

The 3 biggest rural areas of Scotland ( D&G, borders and highland) only have about 300 cases each and my region is only 40 deaths, hospitsls empty.

Bet no more folk dieing than normal,

 

Why did u not compare Sweden to UK? More similar in size to UK?

 

Another thing to Lok at is howd death are recorded, in UK any thing that even looks symptomatic of C19 is recorded as C19 death while even in countries like Germany where u trust the stats they're recording the actual reason, so heart attack, cancer etc if that was the main reason even with C19 on top.

The virus cannot replicate without a host. So all they need to do in NZ now is quarantine new arrivals. It's not rocket science.

We've gone down a different route. The cat is out the bag over here. Without a full on lockdown/ testing and contact tracing, we're not actively trying to suppress the virus.  We're merely trying to slow the rate of transmission so our understocked NHS doesn't collapse.
 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Mark J

[Mark J]

Some useful information in here about covid- 19.
It shines some light on the issue of viral load and situations where transmission is more likely to occur.
It's written Erin Bromage who is Assoc. Prof. of Biology at the University of Massachusetts.
 

The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them

ERINBROMAGE.WIXSITE.COM

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It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable...

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Mark J

[Dan Maynard]

Some useful information in here about covid- 19.
It shines some light on the issue of viral load and situations where transmission is more likely to occur.
It's written Erin Bromage who is Assoc. Prof. of Biology at the University of Massachusetts.
 

The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them

ERINBROMAGE.WIXSITE.COM

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It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable...  

Found that really interesting.

This is just the kind of advice/information that I think the government should be publishing so that we can learn about the virus from reputable sources. I was thinking about doing arb work while reading, it would seem that riding in a van together is much more the risk area than whilst outside, and transmission through touching ropes etc while rigging is possible but unlikely.

Have others found similar articles?

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, Dan Maynard said:

Found that really interesting.

This is just the kind of advice/information that I think the government should be publishing so that we can learn about the virus from reputable sources. I was thinking about doing arb work while reading, it would seem that riding in a van together is much more the risk area than whilst outside, and transmission through touching ropes etc while rigging is possible but unlikely.

Have others found similar articles?

There's more info in that article than we've had from the media/government since things kicked off. It annoys me that we are being kept in the dark.

[Johnsond]

2 minutes ago, Mark J said:

There's more info in that article than we've had from the media/government since things kicked off. It annoys me that we are being kept in the dark.

Drip drip ? drip ??

[Mark J]

1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

Drip drip ? drip ??

Hahaha. You really do have a hardon for Boris.
Read the article or go play somewhere else.

[Johnsond]

27 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Hahaha. You really do have a hardon for Boris.
Read the article or go play somewhere else.

Easy brother Mark no love for Boris here, as I’ve stated to you on a number of occasions I’m not blind to any politicians faults. Just nothing worse than incessant whining and negativity.   Go play where ?? On lockdown and obeying the rules, 

PS The article was read prior to me commenting on the posts tone. 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Johnsond

[Mesterh]

On 08/05/2020 at 12:35, Johnsond said:

Zero exit strategy in Scotland yet I’ve just been out myself to screwfix ?‍♂️Essential?? Not really if I was to be honest but credit to screwfix they have it reasonably well sorted. Went past a retail park containing a B&Q, bargain world, M &S etc and  the place was rammed with long queues. You either go solid lock down or not the halfway house we are seeing is not really working. Even the burger van next to screwfix was open. Truth is many have had enough of being told to stay at home simple as that. 

No doubt they have, doesn't give people the right to be stupid.

 

Expect the amount of infections to increase in a week or so judging by the local VE day celebrations going on. 

People are idiots, that's why the government and press treat them so.

 

Did the weekly shopping, full of couples pottering about and to cut a long boring story short acting like pricks. At a guess it was a minimum of 50% of shoppers.

 

If I was in charge I would tell Joe Public fck all.

 

 

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

40 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

No doubt they have, doesn't give people the right to be stupid.

 

Expect the amount of infections to increase in a week or so judging by the local VE day celebrations going on. 

People are idiots, that's why the government and press treat them so.

 

Did the weekly shopping, full of couples pottering about and to cut a long boring story short acting like pricks. At a guess it was a minimum of 50% of shoppers.

 

If I was in charge I would tell Joe Public fck all.

 

 

 

 

 

Lucky you ain’t eh 

I’m not here to judge individuals or claim I’m adhering to all the guidance like a model citizen, my point is in reality the so called lock down is partial at the very best and that includes Scotland. Sturgeons claims of things being different up here and how she’s enforcing things are just not playing out in reality. 

[monkeybusiness]

2 hours ago, Mesterh said:

No doubt they have, doesn't give people the right to be stupid.

 

Expect the amount of infections to increase in a week or so judging by the local VE day celebrations going on. 

People are idiots, that's why the government and press treat them so.

 

Did the weekly shopping, full of couples pottering about and to cut a long boring story short acting like pricks. At a guess it was a minimum of 50% of shoppers.

 

If I was in charge I would tell Joe Public fck all.

 

 

 

 

 

Infections will increase again now, and they need to if we are going to return to ‘normality’. 
Providing the NHS doesn’t become overwhelmed and people needing treatment aren’t turned away or selected/deselected for treatment then my thoughts are that we are getting through this as well as we possibly can.