Covid-19

[openspaceman]

2 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

This is so disheartening. The NHS stopped being fit for purpose a long time ago. A full and complete overhaul is needed. 

Maybe but it's the bureaucracy not the nursing profession that needs looking at.

 

Of course dealing with the little item I mentioned would lead to even more paperwork.

[TIMON]

Nope:

Of Course the Trump Administration Ignored a Step-by-Step Guide to Fighting a Coronavirus-Esque Pandemic | Vanity Fair

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“It just sat as a document that people worked on that was thrown onto a shelf.”  

Sounds and reads like an almost identical piece in the New York Times...... which was very selective with the actual facts (imagine that)

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[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, TIMON said:

 

Sounds and reads like an almost identical piece in the New York Times...... which was very selective with the actual facts (imagine that)

 

 

 

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There's alot of it about. That's because it's based on things that have happened.
 

[TIMON]

For anyone who is wearying of this thread (and others like it). I’ll just leave this here. I think it provides a great illustration.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, openspaceman said:

Maybe but it's the bureaucracy not the nursing profession that needs looking at.

 

Of course dealing with the little item I mentioned would lead to even more paperwork.

No, I quite agree there.  We've always had first class care in the NHS and always ensure we let them know much we appreciated their care. When our two year old was 3 months old my Wife fell in Tesco and fractured her knee and damaged some tendons. They gave her a room to herself due to having the baby and I was quite set for sleeping on the chair beside her. But they actually gave me a room next to my wife's so I could sleep too. Every time we've been there its always been the same. 

 

But as you mention its the bureaucracy and management that heavily mar the NHS. The people at the coalface have to make do as best they can and constantly have the worry of getting sued for doing something wrong. 

 

When our last daughter was born my wife opted for a water birth. The Midwife suggested she come out the pool, go to the toilet and then pop onto the bed for a quick examination before getting back in the pool. But as my wife was on the toilet another contraction came and with my wife standing up the baby came and fell into the toilet. ?  The Midwife and I where chatting away at this point and she went pale. She'd kinda dropped the ball and for the next two days was shitting herself we where going to either put an official complaint in or worse, sue the NHS. We had one of my wifes friend working on the Ward at the time so she filled us in with the details, and the bollocking the other Midwife got. But not once did it occur to us to complain about it. It was just one of those things. 

 

What really pisses me off is people using the NHS as a political tool to score points. Its pathetic and clearly not the issue. 

 

 

[Mark J]

10 minutes ago, TIMON said:

For anyone who is wearying of this thread (and others like it). I’ll just leave this here. I think it provides a great illustration.

 

 

 

[Mark J]

Watch this @TIMON

Then tell me you'd offer him a job in charge of anything

 

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[trigger_andy]

2 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Watch this @TIMON

Then tell me you'd offer him a job in charge of anything

 

He really is turning into the Dianne Abbott of the States.  

 

So who do the Dems line up to beat him later this year? A Serial sex offender who cant remember what he had for breakfast. Biden could hide his own Easter Eggs.

 

Seriously, WTH is going on over there? Trump is almost guaranteed another 4 years, but with Biden and Pelosi at the Dems helm what choice do the American People have? 

[TIMON]

 
 

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[TIMON]

Watch this @TIMON

Then tell me you'd offer him a job in charge of anything
 
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American politics is a ‘target rich’ environment.
If I had to chose between Trump and Biden....

I still can’t believe it... these two are the best that the US can offer....

Biden is pure class though.....