Importing used Chippers from the US?

[Conor Wright]

Chuck and duck?

[jmac]

Nearly bought this lethal old thing years ago, really glad I didnt ?.

https://youtu.be/12PvauAvd1g

[monkeybusiness]

1 hour ago, jmac said:

Nearly bought this lethal old thing years ago, really glad I didnt ?.

https://youtu.be/12PvauAvd1g

That’s a wonderful machine! 

Gets rid of brash fast and keeps everyone on their toes, and quickly removes the less switched-on from the gene-pool. CE stickers can’t be too hard to get off eBay either!!!

[Watercourse management]

My chipper is has a 20 meter exclusion zone around it because it is so dangerous just got to work out how to start it and get it on a boat to Africa a new market for used chippers.

global used to import and refurbish used bandit chippers from the USA to sell did they have a Ce mark or did they modify them to comply with current hse legislation?

[dig-dug-dan]

45 minutes ago, Watercourse management said:

My chipper is has a 20 meter exclusion zone around it because it is so dangerous just got to work out how to start it and get it on a boat to Africa a new market for used chippers.

global used to import and refurbish used bandit chippers from the USA to sell did they have a Ce mark or did they modify them to comply with current hse legislation?

There are some strange rules concerning machine made in this country. My tracked dumper, made in this country, does not have a footplate on it to stand on. When I asked why, they told me that because its  built in this country, it's not allowed one. But if I buy an Italian hinowa, it can. 

[Gary Prentice]

Lets not forget that CE marking is so difficult to get! If the manufacturer says it conforms, it does.

 

If you are a manufacturer it is your responsibility to:

• carry out the conformity assessment
• set up the technical file
• issue the EC Declaration of Conformity (DoC)
• place CE marking on a product

I wonder where we're going to go with all this now, in a global market. 

CE marking - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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How a product complies with EU safety, health and environmental requirements, and how to place a CE marking on your product.

 

[LGP Eddie]

1 hour ago, Gary Prentice said:

Lets not forget that CE marking is so difficult to get! If the manufacturer says it conforms, it does.

 

If you are a manufacturer it is your responsibility to:

• carry out the conformity assessment
• set up the technical file
• issue the EC Declaration of Conformity (DoC)
• place CE marking on a product

I wonder where we're going to go with all this now, in a global market. 

CE marking - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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How a product complies with EU safety, health and environmental requirements, and how to place a CE marking on your product.

 

I asked the question because I’m currently going through it with an attachment and it’s opened my eyes somewhat to something I’d previously just considered another load of shite lumped on us from Europe.

 

Turns out it’s nothing like I thought, nothing is there to trip you up and in reality you’re simply compiling the evidence into a file, having instructions written and then getting your certificate and CE mark.

I’ve been quoted 3.5k by an external company, but that could be less yet as another manufacturer would be able to do it in house.

 

In this instance with a Chipper that’s probably already sold into Europe it would be far simpler.

Instructions will already be written, any safety features needed to comply with any Euro legislation will be available off the shelf and in reality the whole process becomes a case of seeing what the original manufacturer did to comply with the CE mark themselves.

 

Certainly not a huge job for one of the many companies out there specialising in this, and they’ll have no issues writing out a certificate on something that you’ve retrofitted all the bits to make exactly the same as the manufacturers Euro spec model.

It may even be the case it’s exactly the same anyway.

 

Same as everything in this Industry, you either try to comply or crack on and take the competitive edge.

Almost certainly you’ll get away with it unless something goes wrong, and that’s when it’s long faces all round and you have to weigh up was it worth it?

 

 

Eddie.

Edited January 12, 2020 by LGP Eddie

[Gary Prentice]

1 minute ago, LGP Eddie said:

I asked the question because I’m currently going through it with an attachment and it’s opened my eyes somewhat to something I’d previously just considered another load of shite lumped on us from Europe.

 

Turns out it’s nothing like I thought, nothing is there to trip you up and in reality you’re simply compiling the evidence into a file, having instructions written and then getting your certificate and CE mark.

I’ve been quoted 3.5k by an external company, but that could be less yet as another manufacturer would be able to do it in house.

 

In this instance with a Chipper that’s probably already sold into Europe it would be far simpler.

Instructions will already be written, any safety features needed to comply with any Euro legislation will be available off the shelf and in reality the whole process becomes a case of seeing what the original manufacturer did to comply with the CE mark themselves.

 

Certainly not a huge job for one of the many companies out there specialising in this, and they’ll have no issues writing out a certificate on something that you’ve retrofitted all the bits to make exactly the same as the manufacturers Euro spec model.

 

Same as everything in this Industry, you either try to comply or crack on and take the competitive edge.

Almost certainly you’ll get away with it unless something goes wrong, and that’s when it’s long faces all round and you have to weigh up was it worth it?

 

 

Eddie.

Sorry Eddie if I came across antagonistic, I've looked into what CE marking actually entails before and think that there's something amiss when the manufacturer self-certificates.

On top of that it also seems yet another piece of Eu legislation designed as a practice to restrict the trade of those outside of it.

What it seems to do is give some companies a chance to charge what they want when the buyer wants to buy from a manufacturer outside the EU. Maybe coming away from the EU common sense will prevail and cross-continent compliance will begin to prevail?

[LGP Eddie]

27 minutes ago, Gary Prentice said:

Sorry Eddie if I came across antagonistic, I've looked into what CE marking actually entails before and think that there's something amiss when the manufacturer self-certificates.

On top of that it also seems yet another piece of Eu legislation designed as a practice to restrict the trade of those outside of it.

What it seems to do is give some companies a chance to charge what they want when the buyer wants to buy from a manufacturer outside the EU. Maybe coming away from the EU common sense will prevail and cross-continent compliance will begin to prevail?

I think the self certification route in my case allows me to have exactly what I want constructed in a safe and sensible way, able to stand up to scrutiny should an incident occur, plus put safeguards into the construction to ensure it doesn’t.

I get an added layer of protection for my money is how I have to look at it.

 

 

I think the main issue of importing chippers will be to ensure a good alternative supply of spares in case the UK dealers are unwilling to cooperate.

 

 

Eddie.

[dumper]

I build auto gates I self certificate each one so I do 10 to 20 each year with a ce mark very easy once you have done one just remember to keep file for ten years the file does not have to exist I can be electronic and available if requested