Global warming fact or fiction? Has it effected when you use your stove?

[Steve Bullman]

Perhaps she'll really cry if someone tells her the real cause and the only real solution

[difflock]

Wot, Like exterminate ALL unproductive persons, lets say starting with actors.

[Woodworks]

19 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

Perhaps she'll really cry if someone tells her the real cause and the only real solution

Do tell Steve.

 

I think she is breath of fresh air who tells it how it is for a change

Edited September 24, 2019 by Woodworks

[tree-fancier123]

34 minutes ago, difflock said:

Have the "we are doomed" anthropological climate change prophets taken the data from say the 1960's and used this data to run their climate prediction models, simply to check out what the results would be for say 2010 to 2015, to verify their accuracy, or not.

Before using these models to predict future climate likelyhoods.

Apparently the answer is no.

Why not?

Backtesting is a term used in modeling to refer to testing a predictive model on historical data. Backtesting is a type of retrodiction, and a special type of cross-validation applied to previous time period(s). (def from Wiki) hindcasting is used as a similar term in meteorology

Obviously some of the scientists will make things up 1 to further their careers and 2 because they believe passionately in climate change and a little fabricated evidence is for the greater good to help convince the public. However, there has been fairly rigorous backtesting of predictive models against observed data. Personally I don't think they are just guessing.

screenshot from this article on backtesting climate models against observed data

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming

 

 

[BowlandStoves]

I once heard a quote which made me smile lol

 

"Socialism is all good and well until you run out of other people's money to spend"

[Haironyourchest]

6 hours ago, BowlandStoves said:

I once heard a quote which made me smile lol

 

"Socialism is all good and well until you run out of other people's money to spend"

Yes, but when you run out of their money, you simply compel them to work by force. You do need to keep your secret police well fed and watered though....

[difflock]

Why did Dr. Michael Mann give up his chance to pursue his libel suit against Dr. Ball rather than turn over his underlying climate research data? - Quora

WWW.QUORA.COM

 

[Mull]

[Rough Hewn]

Don't believe the hype.
And the reality is...

[Lucan]

1 hour ago, Mull said:

Judith Curry gets no media coverage?

 

Just the other day she was found to be the 4th most visible in terms of media coverage of all climate change speakers (out of the 750). In fact deniers and skeptics get 50% more media visibility than scientists (source). The BBC as a perfect example of this lack of editorial rigor.

 

She has also testified before the House and Senate on multiple occasions.

 

She also doesn't say it's all a hoax BTW.

 

Apart from that your analysis is spot on.