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Fact. It's proven that the world is warming. Some may argue it's not due to mankind and CO2 emissions but the warming is proven beyond doubt.

 

For me it's been driven by our CO2 emissions and it's now out of hand and needs dramatic action if we dont want to cook long term.

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Human over-population: fact or fiction?

 

A fantastic evolutionary success story and plenty of room for another 7 billion, and another until we have to jump on space ships and find another world where we can repeat the whole glorious experiment; or one colonising parasitic species that is completely out of control and has caused the most horrendous despoliation of the planet? 

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5 minutes ago, Gimlet said:

Human over-population: fact or fiction?

 

A fantastic evolutionary success story and plenty of room for another 7 billion, and another until we have to jump on space ships and find another world where we can repeat the whole glorious experiment; or one colonising parasitic species that is completely out of control and has caused the most horrendous despoliation of the planet? 

Yea but what have the Romans ever done for us ?  

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9 hours ago, Gimlet said:

Human over-population: fact or fiction?

 

A fantastic evolutionary success story and plenty of room for another 7 billion, and another until we have to jump on space ships and find another world where we can repeat the whole glorious experiment; or one colonising parasitic species that is completely out of control and has caused the most horrendous despoliation of the planet? 

The latter 

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21 hours ago, Stubby said:

Yea but what have the Romans ever done for us ?  

Well, as a serious question, they were the major architects in the northern hemisphere of metropolitanism and industrialisation. It's that process of industrialism and urbanisation that has driven the intensification of agriculture, mass energy consumption, unsustainable socio-economic models based on endless consumption and expansion and ultimately artificially high and unsustainable population levels.

 

Agrarian societies tend not to over-populate because they are governed irrevocably by natural resources and the availability of food. Industrial societies break those ties and throughout history have always overpopulated following a cycle of growth, resource depletion, exhaustion and collapse.  (And then, depressingly, re-emergence with apparently no lessons learnt).

The Romans expanded that model across Europe (other cultures did it concurrently in other parts of the world). We in our age have continued it, updated its technologies (though not, evidently, its political structures) and exported it globally. The inherent contradictions and unsustainability of the industrial expansionism model haven't gone away, they're just being held in obeyance and the consequences postponed (but not eliminated) by the use of technology, a deferment that simultaneously drives further population expansion through the principle of risk compensation ie. introduce measures that make a risky or destructive activity safer or less destructive and the result is more people do it and do more of it, negating any restraining influence and producing an exponential increase in the very thing the measures were intended to curtail. That is what is happening with population expansion as we try to mitigate its environmental effects.

 

The Romans didn't do all that for us but they were major contributors in the development of the process.   

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22 hours ago, BowlandStoves said:

I am just lighting the blue touch paper on this one and stepping back ūü§ó

 

Global warming, fact or fiction? Have you changed your stove use habits over the last few years?

I thought 'global warming' was superceeded by 'man-made climate change' on account that the globe has been chearfully warmin' a little bit for the last few millions of years all of its own accord.

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21 hours ago, Gimlet said:

Human over-population: fact or fiction?

 

A fantastic evolutionary success story and plenty of room for another 7 billion, and another until we have to jump on space ships and find another world where we can repeat the whole glorious experiment; or one colonising parasitic species that is completely out of control and has caused the most horrendous despoliation of the planet? 

The former.  Humans are brilliant.

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21 minutes ago, Bolt said:

The former.  Humans are brilliant.

If we are brilliant how come we have denuded our soils, polluted our seas, poisoned our rivers, murdered countless other humans, changed our whole atmosphere, treat our elderly less well than our animals etc etc etc. Yes we made rockets to take man into space but not sure that outweighs all the dumb ass stuff we have and continue to do. Even the main aim of rockets these days is to eventually inhabit another planet as we too stupid to look after this one.

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