New Defender

[billpierce]

Any sign of a pickup version? Just out of interest

[JonnyRFT]

2 minutes ago, billpierce said:

Any sign of a pickup version? Just out of interest

Commercial variants will be released later next year I believe. 

[Richard 1234]

2 hours ago, GA Groundcare said:

Could well be wrong and at this stage can only really be theoretical. 

 

200, 300, older TD5, 130, tipper, Hi-Cap, mewp and all the other weird and wonderful creations will be fairly safe price wise. They have hit the bottom on their pricing, a 200/300 can be picked up for decent money and is a good dog car, weekend toy, off roader etc and can be beaten about, spanner it yourself easily, stand on its wings without much thought, wash it out and life is good.

 

However, you start getting into the 2010-2015 Defenders. XS, County station wagons and the like that are commanding 25-50K they are no longer any of the above, apart from a shock absorber and other basic mechanics, you aren't going to do much work on a 2.2 TDCI with DPF yourself, you don't really want to chuck dogs in one and stand on the wings with stone filled wellies when you own a 35k late Defender. They are uncomfortable to drive, anything over a few hours and you struggle to walk after, rubbish heaters, window needs to be open to steer it any sense etc etc. (Don't get me wrong, I love a late TDCI Defender)

 

Now you will be able to buy a brand new Defender with manufactures warranty, all the mod cons, spec for spec the new Defender pisses all over the old Defender if you wish to go lightly off road (check latest review videos) it'll be safe, comfy along with a better transmissions, engines and you could drive the length of the UK and be able to walk after wards.

 

The folk that buy a late Defender XS (or similar higher trim level) 9 times out of 10 wont be buying it to go off road,a farm hack or as a work truck. It''ll be for urban usage and maybe some towing. So surely you would spend that money, or potentially less and drive away a brand new Defender from the dealership? Thus decreasing the demand for the later classic Defender?

 

 

I’m with you now. Like you say the 200,300 and to an extent the td5 have hit bittome and are working up again in price (that’s the impression I’m getting when trying to get hold of them for people) puma onwards I think you May be right as they started to try and be something they weren’t (in my opinion) from then.

[GA Groundcare]

19 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

I’m with you now. Like you say the 200,300 and to an extent the td5 have hit bittome and are working up again in price (that’s the impression I’m getting when trying to get hold of them for people) puma onwards I think you May be right as they started to try and be something they weren’t (in my opinion) from then.

Currently trying to purchase a 90 TD5 van (have been for a couple of months). There are some serious dreamers out there selling tatty, rotten, chopped about examples with 200,000 miles for 10k. However when you start following some adverts they really aren't selling. The next person comes to advertise their 90 and after a quick internet search thinks he (or she) has doubled his money on a 5k truck in 4 years.

[Irishlew72]

It all went downhill after the TD5 IMO, such a shame as they had that engine so right in the end, but it was too late 

[Matthew Storrs]

2 hours ago, Irishlew72 said:

It all went downhill after the TD5 IMO, such a shame as they had that engine so right in the end, but it was too late 

I think the TD5 is a bit disappointing myself- needs a remap and upgraded intercooler to get the best from it. I’d take a standard 300 over  a standard TD5 myself. Don’t like the fly by wire throttle either. .

[allseasons]

300tdi all day long they should have never stopped putting them in i have a 300 td5 and 2.4puma the 300 wins every time less issues or problems and you don’t need a laptop to repair it either!

[LGP Eddie]

Had them one after another in series and worked them hard.

300tdi would have a special fondness, but nothing comes close to the 2.4.

 

I’m talking standard vehicles, with money they can all be made something completely different.

[woody paul]

A Td5 that has been tweeked by Twisted takes some beating. 

But for the weekend diyer 300tdi is the best but the Td5 can be worked. 

[LGP Eddie]

Yes they can all be made something different, but out of the crate, a 2.4 and six speed is on another level.

Not only in engine/gearbox, the updates and convenience packs made a real difference to daily use.

The 2.2 is just gutless by comparison.