3.5 ton plant trailer for 2.6 ton digger and other duties...

[butters]

I’ve got a gh94 ifor and sell it every 2 years and only lose £300. I can’t see you doing that with other makes of trailer ifor hold strong second hand money.

I sell them every 2 years as by then the brakes will soon need doing and tyres are starting to wear down and it’s more cost effective to buy new

[Gray git]

Just got a GH 1054 for the same job to replace a gh84 as its not wide enough for the digger tracks. I'd looked at Brian James and seemed well specked but was told a min of 12 weeks till I'd get it but the ifor I could collect that day.....
Went for the upgrade spec of bigger tyres and led lights and a believe the bigger springs. Tows beautifully and will hold a decent resale I'd hope.

[Matthew Storrs]

4 minutes ago, butters said:

I’ve got a gh94 ifor and sell it every 2 years and only lose £300. I can’t see you doing that with other makes of trailer ifor hold strong second hand money.

I sell them every 2 years as by then the brakes will soon need doing and tyres are starting to wear down and it’s more cost effective to buy new

Mad isn’t it.. who’d pay £300 less than new for a trailer that will likely need £600 spending on it soon! 

Ifor do hold their money that’s for sure

[monkeybusiness]

2 hours ago, dig-dug-dan said:

Did brian james not sort out the problem?

I bought it from a dealer in Chester - they told me to bring it back after a couple of hundred miles for a free service (no Ifor dealer has ever offered me that, and I’ve bought quite a few over the years)! Great I thought!

It was originally supplied with a really snazzy jockey wheel that folded up when you wound it up, but it didn’t work with any sort of loaded nose weight (genuinely unusable) so I asked them to swap it for a more traditional style. ‘Not a problem sir, sorry about that - come and pick it up this afternoon’. 

Popped back later to collect to be confronted with a £100 plus bill - there was a tiny (as far as I was concerned totally useable until a much larger inevitable smash occurred) crack (not a hole, a small crack which had already led to a bollocking at work) in a light lense which apparently warranted a complete light unit replacement, and some other bullshit costs for me to swallow. 

I let them know my thoughts, they spat the dummy and tore up the bill, I won’t spend money there again, and subsequently the snapped trailer has been professionally repaired at my expense a few times, there are other issues with this trailer that aren’t easy fixes (the ‘regular’ jockey wheel clamp bolt is a ridiculous skinny specialist affair that strips threads for fun but is a bitch to tap out larger as it goes into a casting, the brake cables come from the factory dangling down underneath on cable ties and they get snagged off road, the hubs don’t centralise the wheels so refitting is difficult) - my love affair is well and truly over with Brian - Ifor, I am sorry I strayed!) 

[Stephen Blair]

If needing a 2.6 ton max pay load then avoid a tri axle, too heavy and the middle wheel takes most of the load on uneven ground.  Unless you want length for a lighter machine and loads of room for other stuff.

 As for knocking someone down loads, I say what goes around comes around.  Find a good dealer who is fare and needs to earn a living just like us, support him and he will be there in 2 years when you want to replace it.  Ifor Williams has served me well over the years.

[monkeybusiness]

If the sole purpose is for moving machinery, I’d give serious consideration to a tilt bed for its additional versatility by the way. I’m considering one at the moment as it will be easier to load 3PL attachments than onto our current tipper trailers as they have a low load bed (which is also flat).

[monkeybusiness]

1 minute ago, Stephen Blair said:

If needing a 2.6 ton max pay load then avoid a tri axle, too heavy and the middle wheel takes most of the load on uneven ground.  Unless you want length for a lighter machine and loads of room for other stuff.

 As for knocking someone down loads, I say what goes around comes around.  Find a good dealer who is fare and needs to earn a living just like us, support him and he will be there in 2 years when you want to replace it.  Ifor Williams has served me well over the years.

The Ifor I had issues with came from Ifor Williams direct (as it was in stock ready to go, and I needed one immediately) - they were subsequently shite to deal with when I had problems though, which pushed me away from the brand initially.

I’ve otherwise always dealt with Maurice Buftons in Ludlow for Ifor Williams and they are exceptional - amazing value and fantastic support! Superb company - they are about the best value for Stihl kit you will find too IME. 

[spuddog0507]

ifor trailers will hold there money better than any othere trailer out there which says a lot to me, as butters said new trailer every 2 years for £300 which works out at approx 40p a day, now thats cheep to have a new/newish trailer , the ifor i run is a 2014 10x5.5 tipper that is worked to death and nearly always overloaded, 2 services with dealer and 1 set of tyres so far, not had any problems with it as yet,

[dig-dug-dan]

8 hours ago, monkeybusiness said:

I bought it from a dealer in Chester - they told me to bring it back after a couple of hundred miles for a free service (no Ifor dealer has ever offered me that, and I’ve bought quite a few over the years)! Great I thought!

It was originally supplied with a really snazzy jockey wheel that folded up when you wound it up, but it didn’t work with any sort of loaded nose weight (genuinely unusable) so I asked them to swap it for a more traditional style. ‘Not a problem sir, sorry about that - come and pick it up this afternoon’. 

Popped back later to collect to be confronted with a £100 plus bill - there was a tiny (as far as I was concerned totally useable until a much larger inevitable smash occurred) crack (not a hole, a small crack which had already led to a bollocking at work) in a light lense which apparently warranted a complete light unit replacement, and some other bullshit costs for me to swallow. 

I let them know my thoughts, they spat the dummy and tore up the bill, I won’t spend money there again, and subsequently the snapped trailer has been professionally repaired at my expense a few times, there are other issues with this trailer that aren’t easy fixes (the ‘regular’ jockey wheel clamp bolt is a ridiculous skinny specialist affair that strips threads for fun but is a bitch to tap out larger as it goes into a casting, the brake cables come from the factory dangling down underneath on cable ties and they get snagged off road, the hubs don’t centralise the wheels so refitting is difficult) - my love affair is well and truly over with Brian - Ifor, I am sorry I strayed!) 

What a shame. I have that jockey wheel on my small brian james digger plant, and not had any issues with it as yet, but noticed on the bigger one, its a standard one, so they must of changed the design.

Fingers crossed mine will be ok!

I have moved away from ifor due to poor welds, brake pads that keep coming unbonded from the shoes and jamming the brakes on, rattling sides, poor ride handling, and lack of enthusiasm or help from ifor in general.

For example, i have the 16ft tilt bed. I wanted to convert the manual pump to electric, as i was keen to make things easier especially as i was unloading and loading 8 times in a day in the summer.

They insisted it couldnt be done, and would not help in anyway to source spares.

I eventually proved them wrong, and did it for around 300quid, even making the system wireless. Why they wouldnt help is beyond me considering they would have got the profits from the spares.

[LeeGray]

+1 for ifor. Most of the dealers seem not to care but there are good ones around so don’t just go local. Easy for bits, easy to resell and loose very little money, easy to use everyday. Check it’ll work with leds on your motor first, some don’t or need relays fitting.