"Clean Air Strategy" today we find out.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

3 hours ago, difflock said:

Are "they" going to attempt to prevent pollen and natural air borne dust particles, etc etc.

Bloody sub Saharan airborne dust - coming over here taking our health!  ?? 

[Khriss]

5 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Bloody sub Saharan airborne dust - loaded with depleted uranium dust frm all the tank busting rounds we happened to unload in certain countries to get hold of their cheap oil - coming over here taking our health!  ?? 

...fixed that for you k

 

( certain university study , Reading Uni, I think )

[difflock]

And yet nature is absolutely thriving in the cordoned off nuclear-hot Chernobyl zone,

it appears not only is mankind susceptible to pollution(incl totally natural kinds),

but mankind is of itself the biggest pollution on Earth.

[Woodworks]

1 hour ago, Alycidon said:

  why else would they say 20% MC is acceptable.

 

 

 

 

Because 20% is more than dry enough for quality logs. Never seen a stove that is not happy with logs at 20% and never had a customer complain that our logs are too wet and we have sold a few. We have been over this many a time but it won't stop me pointing out you can have your super kiln dried logs but as soon as they come out the kiln they are going to start taking up moisture until they reach equilibrium with their environment and that will be 15%-20% if you live in the UK. 

[Khriss]

35 minutes ago, difflock said:

And yet nature is absolutely thriving in the cordoned off nuclear-hot Chernobyl zone,

it appears not only is mankind susceptible to pollution(incl totally natural kinds),

but mankind is of itself the biggest pollution on Earth.

But of course ! Rabbits with retractable fangs, wolves with thermal imaging and grass snakes able to use a mobile fone to order from amazon - I saw it on youtube ! k

[Billhook]

They seem to make a big fuss about wood smoke and yet fireworks, especially at New Year which create a toxic cloud over most of Europe seem to be ignored.  Politicians can virtue signal their green credentials by criminalising wood stoves and wood producers, but they have not enough courage to ban fireworks.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38495564

Edited January 14, 2019 by Billhook

[woody paul]

39 minutes ago, Billhook said:

They seem to make a big fuss about wood smoke and yet fireworks, especially at New Year which create a toxic cloud over most of Europe seem to be ignored.  Politicians can virtue signal their green credentials by criminalising wood stoves and wood producers, but they have not enough courage to ban fireworks.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38495564

Nearly every bonfire on November 5 has rubbish you can't get rid of any other time of year have not been raised up either. 

Edited January 14, 2019 by woody paul

[rustcutter]

I just heard on the radio that all this new rules thing was to do with people burning the cheap prepacked logs form garage forecourts. Unfortunately with thinking like that becoming the norm, all reasonable argument is just superfluous.

[Billhook]

Can someone find a chart which shows the percentage of each different particulate pollution in the uk.

 

I just have this feeling that although it is a good direction to go, to try and filter diesel fumes and wood smoke, or burn the correct material at the correct temperature, there may be more pollution every time half a dozen Euro fighters take off from our local RAF airbase, with full afterburner, than all the wood stoves in this county put together

[Puffingbilly413]

2 hours ago, Woodworks said:

Because 20% is more than dry enough for quality logs. Never seen a stove that is not happy with logs at 20% and never had a customer complain that our logs are too wet and we have sold a few. We have been over this many a time but it won't stop me pointing out you can have your super kiln dried logs but as soon as they come out the kiln they are going to start taking up moisture until they reach equilibrium with their environment and that will be 15%-20% if you live in the UK. 

Yep - was in Lidl (or possibly Aldi - can't remember as we've got both) today and noticed their bags of kiln dried logs in the entrance way.  In plastic bags and loads of condensation on the inside.  No way they are going to be 'kiln' dry.

 

Plus they work out about £450 a tonne if you add it up...