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I am NOT saying I would walk into Court on this one , many decisions have to be made by employers and employees , but make no mistake - IF you have been trained to do a job and signed off on that , then ignore good or accepted best practise - yr on yr own infront of the Judge K

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A good groundie fills the saws when you get to the job , keeps your rope clear , lowers a limb and pulls it where it needs to go at the same time , he also should be looking out for you ! Rare as rocking horse shizzle these days . I'm a firm believer if your to be a good climber first you must be a good groundsman !

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1 hour ago, danroker1987 said:

A good groundie fills the saws when you get to the job , keeps your rope clear , lowers a limb and pulls it where it needs to go at the same time , he also should be looking out for you ! Rare as rocking horse shizzle these days . I'm a firm believer if your to be a good climber first you must be a good groundsman !

 funny that, I've always found that the best groundies generally are also climbers. 

 

I don't do my own jobs but if I did I'd rather pay the extra for a decent climber, that way the workload is shared, you don't have to burst a vessel explaining basic stuff and the conversation is better than a feckless 17 year old. 

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7 minutes ago, Joe Newton said:

 funny that, I've always found that the best groundies generally are also climbers. 

 

I don't do my own jobs but if I did I'd rather pay the extra for a decent climber, that way the workload is shared, you don't have to burst a vessel explaining basic stuff and the conversation is better than a feckless 17 year old. 

What!? Pay decent money and get decent staff, that will never catch on.

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On 4/20/2018 at 00:18, Joe Newton said:

 funny that, I've always found that the best groundies generally are also climbers. 

 

I don't do my own jobs but if I did I'd rather pay the extra for a decent climber, that way the workload is shared, you don't have to burst a vessel explaining basic stuff and the conversation is better than a feckless 17 year old. 

It’s easy enough to say that, but when you start out on your own you’re only likely to get jobs on price, not on your impressive reputation or equipment.

 

There won’t be enough fat on the job to fork out £150 to an all singing and dancing climber to drag brash across a lawn, then £70 on mate from the pub makes good sense.

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The belittling of ground staff really does piss me off, "brash draggers" is a horrible term to use for  trainee ground staff. Bottom line here is they are all team members , good ground crew can make a very ordinary climber look good in the same way crap ground staff can slow down a decent climber. Everyone being switched on and up to speed with the works program is probably the single most important thing, its all about coordination ,staying safe and team work.

 

Bob

 

Edit: Just realised the above is a rant :$

 

Ground staff . Preferably first aiders , saw tickets, citb if poss , aerial rescue , mechanically sympathetic , safety aware and know your rigging/knots :)

 

Bob

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Frankly

over here you are better off with brash stackers or in my case brash stacker and an articulated loader. Does less ground damage than numerous trips by hand anyhow. Not many yards i cant get into with a 1250mm wide loader

Hell on a good day i can do my own stacking from above too

 

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