French Election

[TIMON]

How can people be upset that a bunch of Holocaust deniers failed to be elected as the government of France? Genuinely interested.

 

 

I take your point, especially seeings as I have Jewish ancestry. Le Pen certainly wouldn't be my ideal candidate.

However, I am concerned at the spread of Islamic ideologies in the west.

Try googling what is happening to Christians in the Middle East and ask yourself if you would like to see that spreading over here?

Whether you hold to Christian ideals or not, it is hard to deny that western society as a whole hasn't benefitted from the historic influence of the Christian social gospel. Schools, hospitals, religious freedom. Social justice. Etc.. The culture of charities in this country owes a lot of its heritage to Christianity.

Admittedly, Christianity has had its problems and abuses over the centuries but on the whole it has played a large part in shaping western society in a positive way.

The gradual spread of Islam in the west with its ideologies infiltrating government and law making, is slowly changing.

For example, Christian assemblies are banned in most schools yet halal meat is becoming compulsory in many.

This country is changing and not for the better.

As a practising Christian myself, I see more and more restrictions placed on those who want to live by their Christian faith in order to accommodate an ideology that is really intolerant and repressive in the extreme. Christians in this country haven't experienced true persecution, but the way things are going it's in the post.

To answer your question, Mark, I'm not a fan of LePen. But neither candidate really floats my boat really. I just see her, oddly enough as the lesser of two weevils.

 

 

 

 

 

Timon.

[Lucan]

LEAKED DOCUMENT : President Macron Plans Total Islamization of France | Angry American Army

 

When did Macron say that quote in your image? Or is this more fake news?

[Mark J]

Cheers Timon, I don't share the same faith in religion as you do, which makes it difficult for me to agree with your position on the positive perspective on Christianity. It's a dichotomy I, personally cannot resolve.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Prejudice is often a barrier to logic.

[Mark J]

Prejudice is often a barrier to logic.

 

The same could be said of belief in an all powerful, invisible sky dweller...

[Mark Bolam]

Good post Timon.

[hplp]

Very good post Timon and raises a number of points that are often overlooked.

 

H

[Richard 1234]

Perhaps the main point is that the police and court system ignored the sexual abuse committed by the migrant gangs and charged Nick Griffin instead?

 

 

 

I love arguing against you

 

 

They should have done both without doubt.

The far right are still thugs and the far left are as bad only wearing sandals

 

 

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[Vespasian]

Yea, I thought Timon's post made a good read..

 

Though I could argue a few points if I had to.

 

The glaring one that springs to mind is Greek philosophy, how much more advanced would we be but for Christianity winning out over the idea's of the Greek philosophers?..

 

And I might add, Christianity was the seed that spawned Islam..

 

Still, we are were we are, and if I could choose one big thing Christianity did that we all should salute its the crusades, without the church directing events, Europe would be a patchwork quilt of Muslim countries by now.. In that regards thank Christ for Christianity.. and the Church..

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I take your point, especially seeings as I have Jewish ancestry. Le Pen certainly wouldn't be my ideal candidate.

However, I am concerned at the spread of Islamic ideologies in the west.

Try googling what is happening to Christians in the Middle East and ask yourself if you would like to see that spreading over here?

Whether you hold to Christian ideals or not, it is hard to deny that western society as a whole hasn't benefitted from the historic influence of the Christian social gospel. Schools, hospitals, religious freedom. Social justice. Etc.. The culture of charities in this country owes a lot of its heritage to Christianity.

Admittedly, Christianity has had its problems and abuses over the centuries but on the whole it has played a large part in shaping western society in a positive way.

The gradual spread of Islam in the west with its ideologies infiltrating government and law making, is slowly changing.

For example, Christian assemblies are banned in most schools yet halal meat is becoming compulsory in many.

This country is changing and not for the better.

As a practising Christian myself, I see more and more restrictions placed on those who want to live by their Christian faith in order to accommodate an ideology that is really intolerant and repressive in the extreme. Christians in this country haven't experienced true persecution, but the way things are going it's in the post.

To answer your question, Mark, I'm not a fan of LePen. But neither candidate really floats my boat really. I just see her, oddly enough as the lesser of two weevils.

 

 

 

 

 

Timon.

 

 

Film 4 at the moment! Great movie!!