Damn right! A MUST READ.

[herne]

TCD: It's a good piece.

The effects are very clear to see. Not just in the ways that are detailed but also in the quality of outputs.

 

On many jobs that I see (hardwoods or o/m conifers/mixtures), the quality is fast approaching the bad old days of 'timber mining'. With prices either cut to the bone or payment on an uncertain basis it's no surprise that corners are cut or job sites looking 'underloved'.

 

I'd be happy to sign a petition on the basis of contractors being able to issue invoices 'off harvester/forwarder'. I think it would benefit the industry as a whole.

 

Regards

 

Gareth

[skyhuck]

I totally agree with the article, but fear that unfortunately you will never get solidarity within the industry, some will hold firm for a while maybe, others will simply accept the current terms and take more work.

 

There is a huge construction company near me who's payment term are 90days, I and others refuse to work them, but they don't struggle to get contractors.

[Gary Prentice]

I totally agree with the article, but fear that unfortunately you will never get solidarity within the industry, some will hold firm for a while maybe, others will simply accept the current terms and take more work.

 

There is a huge construction company near me who's payment term are 90days, I and others refuse to work them, but they don't struggle to get contractors.

 

Think the standard JCT contract is thirty days. We get huge contracts to read, sign and return - normally long after the works completed, but try getting some companies to adhere to the contract that they require you to!

[Gary Prentice]

Hoping you can zoom in and read the attached photograph. (or copy and paste, enlarge, rotate as neccessary etc)

 

I for one am happy to get "militant" about it.

 

Sums up my life perfectly.

 

So basically, you do the job, get paid 'if and when' the timber is collected but never know the weight for which you'll be able to invoice for - with any certainty.

 

Stacking shelves at Tesco's actually looks like a viable change of career!

[wrsni]

There is a huge construction company near me who's payment term are 90days,

 

Standard practice for construction/civil engineering sub-contract work and has been for many, many years. You still issue your own invoice at the end of the month, three months later you should be paid.

 

Absolutely nothing like the issues being raised in the original post.

[Paul Barton]

What a STUPID stupid stupid reply!!! Apart from fecking the thread up, why don't you engage your brain, read my suggestions and use a little improvisation.

 

Moron.

 

COPY - ROTATE - ZOOM.

 

FFS.

 

Er - take a deep breath and log off til you're ready to post like a grown up

[Johny Walker]

Er - take a deep breath and log off til you're ready to post like a grown up

 

 

 

here we go,

[Mark Bolam]

I don't blame John for getting a bit steamed up, it's a disgraceful state of affairs.

 

 

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[Timber Man]

Perhaps there are too many harvesters in the country chasing the work ?

[jmac]

Good old Donald MacLean! He tells it like it is.