Potus ???

[Mark J]

8 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Cough, cough, WW1/2, Vietnam, Gulf 1/2, Afghanistan, Cold War, American War of independence etc etc.

Okay, swap "differing beliefs in an imaginary sky-dwelling deity" to "differing beliefs in ideologies which are fanatically accepted as normal by each opposing side".

The sentiment is the same either way. 

[GarethM]

1 minute ago, Mark J said:

Okay, swap "differing beliefs in an imaginary sky-dwelling deity" to "differing beliefs in ideologies which are fanatically accepted as normal by each opposing side".

The sentiment is the same either way. 

Nope, not even a capitalism Vs socialism argument will help you there.

 

I was going to throw in emu wars just to perplex the dumb idea it's about religion.

 

It's not about religion on our side and hasn't been since after the templars.

[Johnsond]

25 minutes ago, Mark J said:

What a daft thing to say.
Cheers Dave, you've put a smile on my face.
Most wars and crusades come down (ostensibly) to differing beliefs in an imaginary sky-dwelling deity.
Enjoy the US of A. 

The crusades Mark 😂😂😂

How long ago was the last one. 

[Mark J]

7 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

The crusades Mark 😂😂😂

How long ago was the last one. 

Medievalism, Politics and Mass Media - Boydell and Brewer

BOYDELLANDBREWER.COM

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An exploration of how the Middle Ages are manipulated ideologically in today's communication.In 2001, George Bush provoked global uproar by describing the na...

^

"An exploration of how the Middle Ages are manipulated ideologically in today's communication.

In 2001, George Bush provoked global uproar by describing the nascent War on Terror as a "Crusade". His comments, however, were welcomed by Al-Qaeda, who had long been describing Western powers in precisely the same terms, as modern Crusaders once again invading the Middle East. Ten years later in 2011, Anders Behring Breivik launched a tragic attack in Norway, killing 77 unarmed civilians, mostly teenagers. Breivik saw himself as a Templar Knight, a member of a group of knights allegedly resurrected in London in 2002 by one "Lionheart". Later investigations suggested that the blogger, Lionheart, might have had links to the right-wing, anti-Muslim, English Defence League and otherso-called "counterjihad" blogging networks decrying an Islamic invasion of Europe.
Though extreme examples, these cases all share a crucial detail: the framing of current political issues in terms of recognisable medieval precedents. In the widespread use of medievalism across social- and mass-media channels, it is clear that such political medievalisms are not intended as a specific reference to a historical precedent, but as a use of the past for modern concerns. The argument of this book is that we need new ways of analysing this kind of medievalism; extending far beyond the concept of anachronism or inaccuracy, references to Crusades, Templars and Vikings affect the way we understand our world. Using theories of communication and media studies to examine popular medievalism, the author investigates what effect such medieval terminology can have on a mass-mediated audience and on the understanding ofthe Middle Ages in general."

Edited April 19 by Mark J

[GarethM]

8 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Medievalism, Politics and Mass Media - Boydell and Brewer

BOYDELLANDBREWER.COM

---

An exploration of how the Middle Ages are manipulated ideologically in today's communication.In 2001, George Bush provoked global uproar by describing the na...

^

"An exploration of how the Middle Ages are manipulated ideologically in today's communication.

In 2001, George Bush provoked global uproar by describing the nascent War on Terror as a "Crusade". His comments, however, were welcomed by Al-Qaeda, who had long been describing Western powers in precisely the same terms, as modern Crusaders once again invading the Middle East. Ten years later in 2011, Anders Behring Breivik launched a tragic attack in Norway, killing 77 unarmed civilians, mostly teenagers. Breivik saw himself as a Templar Knight, a member of a group of knights allegedly resurrected in London in 2002 by one "Lionheart". Later investigations suggested that the blogger, Lionheart, might have had links to the right-wing, anti-Muslim, English Defence League and other so-called "counter jihad" blogging networks decrying an Islamic invasion of Europe.
Though extreme examples, these cases all share a crucial detail: the framing of current political issues in terms of recognisable medieval precedents. In the widespread use of medievalism across social- and mass-media channels, it is clear that such political medievalisms are not intended as a specific reference to a historical precedent, but as a use of the past for modern concerns. The argument of this book is that we need new ways of analysing this kind of medievalism; extending far beyond the concept of anachronism or inaccuracy, references to Crusades, Templars and Vikings affect the way we understand our world. Using theories of communication and media studies to examine popular medievalism, the author investigates what effect such medieval terminology can have on a mass-mediated audience and on the understanding of the Middle Ages in general."

Think I'd actually prefer to read the 80s table piece by Steven Hawking than that Social sciences dribble.

 

No doubt littered with buzzwords like patriarchy and other french touchy feely nonsense.

 

The simple solution is usually the right solution, I don't need a 600 page thesis to tell me black is an absence of colour.

[Johnsond]

12 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Medievalism, Politics and Mass Media - Boydell and Brewer

BOYDELLANDBREWER.COM

---

An exploration of how the Middle Ages are manipulated ideologically in today's communication.In 2001, George Bush provoked global uproar by describing the na...

^

"An exploration of how the Middle Ages are manipulated ideologically in today's communication.

In 2001, George Bush provoked global uproar by describing the nascent War on Terror as a "Crusade". His comments, however, were welcomed by Al-Qaeda, who had long been describing Western powers in precisely the same terms, as modern Crusaders once again invading the Middle East. Ten years later in 2011, Anders Behring Breivik launched a tragic attack in Norway, killing 77 unarmed civilians, mostly teenagers. Breivik saw himself as a Templar Knight, a member of a group of knights allegedly resurrected in London in 2002 by one "Lionheart". Later investigations suggested that the blogger, Lionheart, might have had links to the right-wing, anti-Muslim, English Defence League and otherso-called "counterjihad" blogging networks decrying an Islamic invasion of Europe.
Though extreme examples, these cases all share a crucial detail: the framing of current political issues in terms of recognisable medieval precedents. In the widespread use of medievalism across social- and mass-media channels, it is clear that such political medievalisms are not intended as a specific reference to a historical precedent, but as a use of the past for modern concerns. The argument of this book is that we need new ways of analysing this kind of medievalism; extending far beyond the concept of anachronism or inaccuracy, references to Crusades, Templars and Vikings affect the way we understand our world. Using theories of communication and media studies to examine popular medievalism, the author investigates what effect such medieval terminology can have on a mass-mediated audience and on the understanding ofthe Middle Ages in general."

😂😢😢😂shall we say between a 1000 and 700 years roughly 

[GarethM]

And I think it does need to be said there's nothing wrong with several thousand years of a Christian base for our country.

 

Without it you lefty types wouldn't be left, whilst not a bible thumper I was raised on its values as was the nation as a whole.

 

There aren't any entirely atheist countries, you can argue the youth are x,y,z. Yes but they still operate within the laws which are generally based upon those principles otherwise it's anarchy.

 

Plus you can argue, okay no Christmas, Easter or bank holidays if you think it's an atheist country.

[Mark J]

@GarethM and @Johnsond: Thanks for the laughs. Enjoy your night.

[Johnsond]

5 minutes ago, Mark J said:

@GarethM and @Johnsond: Thanks for the laughs. Enjoy your night.

No problem Mark

One final belter  to give you a chuckle. The sheer stupidity of the left knows no bounds. A great chant by the trans lunatics 😂😂😂 how long does any of the ATL think a transgender/openly gay man or woman would last in an area governed by Hamas authorities. 

[Mark J]

11 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

No problem Mark

One final belter  to give you a chuckle. The sheer stupidity of the left knows no bounds. A great chant by the trans lunatics 😂😂😂 how long does any of the ATL think a transgender/openly gay man or woman would last in an area governed by Hamas authorities. 

They'd probably last about as long as they would in area governed by radicalised, far-right, ****************wits.