Potus ???

[Steven P]

mRNA was discussed at length in the Covid thread, they aren't a new method, been around for years (if memory serves me, might be wrong, 1960s 1970s?) however have been more expensive to produce than others, the preference was cheaper methods.

 

For speed of production though they are quicker which is where they came to the front in the Covid vaccines where speed was the primary factor. For anything 'new' the conspiracy theorists come out the wardrobe, in this respect RFK has never been shy to show his proper mental side.

 

RFK has had a vocal anti-vaccine stance, indeed blaming the MMR jab to cause autism and learning difficulties (most recently google thinks in 2023)(it doesn't). His comments a few weeks ago was this outbreak is 'nothing unusual' (despite wide press coverage) to 'serious' yesterday. He has been very critical about vaccines, not 'pretty open' about them.

 

I think for him to about turn publicly, alienate his fan base, I think the measles outbreak should be uprated to 'very serious'

[GarethM]

10 minutes ago, Steven P said:

mRNA was discussed at length in the Covid thread, they aren't a new method, been around for years (if memory serves me, might be wrong, 1960s 1970s?) however have been more expensive to produce than others, the preference was cheaper methods.

 

For speed of production though they are quicker which is where they came to the front in the Covid vaccines where speed was the primary factor. For anything 'new' the conspiracy theorists come out the wardrobe, in this respect RFK has never been shy to show his proper mental side.

 

RFK has had a vocal anti-vaccine stance, indeed blaming the MMR jab to cause autism and learning difficulties (most recently google thinks in 2023)(it doesn't). His comments a few weeks ago was this outbreak is 'nothing unusual' (despite wide press coverage) to 'serious' yesterday. He has been very critical about vaccines, not 'pretty open' about them.

 

I think for him to about turn publicly, alienate his fan base, I think the measles outbreak should be uprated to 'very serious'

I think we're all aware it's a bit more nuanced than that, or would you like people to start listing Starmer and Co promises ?.

[Steven P]

You could do but none of them are the US president and none of them have about-turned on MMR vaccines this week after years of denouncing them, so I reckon the relevance would be even less talking about Starmer and co here, cross threading.

[GarethM]

30 minutes ago, Steven P said:

You could do but none of them are the US president and none of them have about-turned on MMR vaccines this week after years of denouncing them, so I reckon the relevance would be even less talking about Starmer and co here, cross threading.

Similar level of office, so yes relevant.

 

Our lot couldn't find their arsehole without a map or for the ease of lammy just looking left/right wednesday dinner time.

 

Humm,

 

Trust the science.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

Edited April 7 by GarethM

[Steven P]

So if you want to talk about Lammys arsehole pop it in the Labour thread, perhaps it is something we can all get behind and like? Unity for a change.

 

For now though, in the US thread, POTUS, happy enough to listen to a defence of RFK and his new views on vaccines, or go back up a step to my question of last night and what is the headliner, the big Trump, going to fail to do this week.

[GarethM]

You know foaming at the mouth is usually rabies?.

 

RFK wants tried & tested, simple.

Jabbing everyone and calling mRNA a success isn't the same as 60 years of old style vaccines.

[Steven P]

He didn't want the MMR jab, tried and tested, till that (white) 6 year old died. In fact he for the top health bloke, he doesn't want any vaccines (a well known anti-vaccine mouthpiece), 

 

 

However at the expense of covering what was in the Covid thread, again, a billion doses or whatever it was is quite a clinical trial and to date there hasn't been a million deaths or serious complications, in fact it is similar level of issues to what you'd get from any vaccine, still 60 years of research since the technique was developed, you'd expect that.

[GarethM]

Think he's always been happy with the singular vaccines, triple the vaccine the greater the risk.

 

All his kids are jabbed, he just wants safe and that's a simple request amd requirement when all the drs wish to do is jab and dose you at every turn.

 

One per disease is a simple go, no go.

 

And no the world wide trial doesn't count, it's not got 60 years of actual long term evidence.

 

Next you'll be saying there's a mRNA insulin, yeah nobody is drinking the koolaid.

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