Potus ???

[peds]

Trump wants to make himself crystal clear on this point. 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

Buttering us up to be his little bitch, threatening, then throwing us a bone.

I hope Starmer doesn’t fall for this, I’m sure he won’t.

 

Trump is not to be trusted, bullshitter to the core.

Edited 22 hours ago by Mick Dempsey

[topchippyles]

15 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Buttering us up to be his little bitch, threatening, then throwing us a bone.

I hope Starmer doesn’t fall for this, I’m sure he won’t.

 

Trump is not to be trusted, bullshitter to the core.

He ought to join arbtalk he will fit right in with all the other bullshitters,😉

[sime42]

He just wants an invitation to tea with King Charles. Not joking. He's a sucker for Royalty, and Dictators.

 

 

[GarethM]

You say that, but a lot of our industry land rover for example relocated not due to the wages but due to the EU funding.

 

They had a massive fund, effectively paid for a brand new factory to be setup and moved at practically zero cost.

 

Land rover, Cadbury and a long list of others used it.

[Steven P]

36 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Buttering us up to be his little bitch, threatening, then throwing us a bone.

I hope Starmer doesn’t fall for this, I’m sure he won’t.

 

Trump is not to be trusted, bullshitter to the core.

 

Look at Mexico, played by the Trump play book:

Rich and powerful man threatens the smaller man with bigly problems / financial issues

Little man rolls over and negotiates

Trump plays his trump card (I know, I know) and gets what he wanted in the first place. Bigly problems don't happen.

Classic call my bluff.

 

In Mexico:

Bigly threatening tariffs even if they will hurt the US, bluff for a week or so.

Mexico phones.

Tariffs 'postponed' (the threat is still there for his next whim)

Mexico sends 100,000 national guard to the border to stop drugs and immigrants.

Trump gets what he wanted.

 

 

Very rare for anyone to call his bluff, though he might be pushing it a bit too far with the rest of the world leaders. Some push back in Ontario where they have cancelled the contract with the first besties starlink in response to tariffs... that isn't in the play book, you're meant to roll over before you can act

[peds]

[GarethM]

2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Look at Mexico, played by the Trump play book:

Rich and powerful man threatens the smaller man with bigly problems / financial issues

Little man rolls over and negotiates

Trump plays his trump card (I know, I know) and gets what he wanted in the first place. Bigly problems don't happen.

Classic call my bluff.

 

In Mexico:

Bigly threatening tariffs even if they will hurt the US, bluff for a week or so.

Mexico phones.

Tariffs 'postponed' (the threat is still there for his next whim)

Mexico sends 100,000 national guard to the border to stop drugs and immigrants.

Trump gets what he wanted.

 

 

Very rare for anyone to call his bluff, though he might be pushing it a bit too far with the rest of the world leaders. Some push back in Ontario where they have cancelled the contract with the first besties starlink in response to tariffs... that isn't in the play book, you're meant to roll over before you can act

And why not look at why he had a barney with Mexico, most vehicles are now made there most big agri machinery and plant moved there under Joe.

 

John Deere closed like half a USA factory last month, so I can't blame him to want American companies back ?.

[Big J]

22 hours ago, Steven P said:

BigJ, Glasgow wasn't mining, it is more heavy industrial with a healthy dose of German bombs in WW2 (relevant since that dictates some of the new schemes (housing estates) that were thrown up with poorer planning than what came afterwards... and suitable social problems, many of these schemes with a 50 year life are still existing.. including a couple of the new towns dotted about).

 

The traditionally rougher areas - similar to the Scottish mining towns - are where these industries have moved on - and are also traditionally 'Scots' who live there - the whites - Govan, The Gorbals, Easterhouse and so on.

 

My side of town there are 2 'Asian' areas - I'll do my run commute through both happily - one is rougher than the other, but that is not a factor of race, it is a factor of wealth - the poorer one is tougher. But that is the same through the city as well (n fact, all cities, the poorer areas are the tougher ones regardless of who lives there).

 

I guess I was referring more to the immediate area we lived in. There was a lot of mining around the Firth of Forth, and particularly shale oil in West Lothian. 

[Steven P]

3 hours ago, GarethM said:

And why not look at why he had a barney with Mexico, most vehicles are now made there most big agri machinery and plant moved there under Joe.

 

John Deere closed like half a USA factory last month, so I can't blame him to want American companies back ?.

 

 

That would be an economic decision then? Biden would similarly have been slated if he had put in place policies to sacrifice wage growth for the benefit of cheaper manufacturing wouldn't he?

 

If these companies move back to the US their prices will have to rise, if they get hit with tariffs their prices will rise. The American public would see price rises... Didn't Trump campaign that he'd lower prices immediately - eggs quoted but it was almost everything. Can't see that happening with tariffs being added in, which goes back to him bluffing, blatantly go back on an election pledge or be seen to do a deal, a great deal the likes of which has never been seen before.. but which gets him what he originally wanted. Do you honestly think he cares much car manufacturers in Mexico more than the public perception and his approval rating?

 

Car manufacturing will stay in Mexico, tariffs will be dropped, headlines of Mexico sending 100,00 troops to the border, Trump gets the kudos.