Jwoodgardenmaintenance

Looks like we've all got different views on travellers and as to gangs organised crime, rapist and intimidating there is that around here but it's all these little chavs and fucking grime warriors ect there's good and bad in every race religion and culture so everyone is entitled to their own opinions and we'll never agree on them Jack

It's easier to say we've got different views of pikeys / travellers but the second post I completely agree with Jack

Tbf I'm not to keen on the fella in the op myself but when you say pikey it automatically sounds as though your on about travellers and they get slagged off enough as it is have you ever watched "our secret world gypsy kids" because there travellers they get battered and bullied in school for their culture but folk don't realise stuff like that because all travellers are thieves apparently Jack

So what do you mean by pikey? Because to my understanding its another name used for gypsies / travellers Jack

Why do folk always mention travellers when stuff goes missing? Is a smack head not capable of robbing for their fix? Jack

Order a non genuine coil and try that? Jack

I have more than one person begging for work at them rates its a fair wage for what I ask people to do I have offered to employ him but he doesn't want employed so what can I do? He comes to work does a shift goes home and gets paid £200 on a Friday for 40 ish hours a week so yeah £5 a hour is shit but it's money in his pocket for whatever Who looks like a low life? Jack

Hard graft? Something needs dug out I get a digger in something needs moved I get a dumper in if it will allow when something needs compacted I'll get a roller and for moving blocks I have strand carriers or sometimes use a bobcat with forks how is that hard work? I bend over backwards to help make life easier all of these prices in this thread are budget job only I can easily run my prices right up but then I start to loose work I'm in the game to make money not think "I wander how much it gonna cost such and such to do this" do you think folk take me into consideration when pricing jobs? He gets paid what he gets paid if he doesn't like it he can go elsewhere can't he? The post was asking about prices and I gave them for the minimum I can do it for its as simple as that ?? Jack

But its like I've said it's his choice there's no control over when he does and doesn't want b to work Jack

Yeah I know where your coming from now didn't know what you meant Jack

I'd class rent & council tax as bills and there paid by the dole I wish I'd only have to pay for gas leccy TV and water tbh would save me a fortune Jack

I don't like it myself BUT if you look at universal credit they allow you to earn so much anyways before your benefits are affected anyways so its not criminal Jack

If he didn't want to work for me I'm not forcing him I've offered him to come to work for £9 hour labouring if he got his utr and stopped claming benefits but its too easy to get all of his bills paid by the dole so it's not as though he's got a gun to his head I've tried but benefits way is easier apparently Jack

1.Well he isnt the first and also for all I know he could be on universal credit and declaring his earnings? Who knows. 2.I price jobs to cater for what I need to charge for my overheads if someone else has bigger overheads than me then obviously they need to charge more. Jack

Why should I pay him any more when the tax we all pay pays his dole as well 5 days a week at £40 so he gets £200 a week tax free cash his rent and council tax paid for by us and then his dole on top he's on a winner there is he not? Jack

No I work full time and business is part time

The labourer isn't on the books so why would he be entitled to minimum wage? He works for £40 a day cash Yous do realise there not shiny polished things ehh? They've been worked hard and carry on working a couple year old bobcat e10 is £8000 plus vat with maybe 1000-2000 hours on it so £40 a day so weekly rate is roughly £180 so even if he hires it out 20 weeks out of 52 over 5 years he's still made £18000 so doubled his money and would still sell for about £4000 and that's only half a year hire or less where as out of the 3 he owns he barely has them off hired for any longer than a day at a time through the peak seasons so if it wasn't going to make money i don't think he'd of invested in the kit it's like I said in a earlier post that different locations have different prices Jack

£358 pay £150 dayrate for me and a labourer so £158 profit ?

That's confused me am I being stupid I can't grasp what you mean? If it's me being numb ill apologise now just finished a 14 hour shift at work Jack

That's expensive for a micro there only about £48+vat at Travis Perkins near me but on the invoice it normally says 60 odd % discount and when I asked apparently everything down south is so much more expensive but yeah that's normal rate around here for diggers you can hire bobcat e10 £70 for a weekend Jack

Why do you sound so surprised? How much are they in your area? It's off a local plant hire firm I use £40 for a 1.2 micro or 1.5 mini and £50 for a 3 tonner then £80 for a 6-8 tonner but you get it with a full tank of diesel and it goes back with one and if you break it you fix it Jack

When there is so much competition your fighting to survive to put food on the table I'd rather have made £300 ish day rate than had £250ish a month dole and with the sub base I've been and visited jobs I done 3-4 years ago and they haven't moved I have always compacted it in 3 inch increments to get ultimate compaction and max 25mm bed of sand so it doesn't sink or crown I can get type 1 with the binder in for £21.60 Inc vat a ton but on a budget that's 3 ton of crusher run so it's just a matter of customer and situation for work at the time With the wagon it's a 7.5 tonner and he takes the topsoil away screens it and then sells it in for £25 a ton so doesn't charge (helps that I get on with the fella as well) and I'm in Maryport North West Cumbria Jack

Muck away is included in the £25 m2 the kerbs are already in mostly just a couple of pin kerbs along the back so maybe £18 for them and a couple of bags of sandy gravel and cement £15 and the blocks don't need to be 60mm it only needs 50mm then there's no rules to say it has to be Mot type 1 I use 10mm recycled aggregate on budget jobs @ £6 a ton I use a wagon to remove waste I pay £65 for 4 ton soil removed and 4 ton sub base fetched in at a 230mm excavation that's 8.1 tons if it is 18m2 so £130 then there's sand 1 ton of sand £16 per ton does 8m2 at 25mm thick so that's £32 then the blocks don't sink and then there's the blocks budget blocks are £4 m2 so that's another £72 and silica sand is maybe another tenner and if you don't have the tools for instance £50 for a 3 ton digger then another £30 for stihl saw and whacker then weed membrane is £45 for 50m2 roll and finally labour at £300 for 2 men for a days work so the £450 for materials total is £392 + £300 labour so the job can be done on a budget for £750 & out of that there's £358 Labour paid all In all not a bad wage for a days work I'd of said I've re read this if I have missed anything please feel free to say this is all off top of the head Jack

?? It's only a days work for 2 men? Works out £79.45 m2 all depends on prices in your builders merchants as well ect but still seems high ? Jack

I can do it for as cheap as £25 per Metre with using seconds blocks from a local block plant or approx £50 ms using marshals blocks there is ways to save money depending on budgets ect Jack