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Open Chimney or Flue? If its an open Chimney then I can see why you did not have to bother.

And thats enough internet for me today.

The book in question specifically states that its the oil content of the Softwood and not the moisture content. I'll go with his and the Norwegian Institutes assessment over yours I think?

I hate processing hardwood, unless its Birch. Softwood is great to process too, but I dont have a Kitchen Fire so have little use for it other than Kindling.

And clean your Flue more often.

Ok, you got me there. I should have said very little in a book 191 pages long. But The pages you mentioned, 60 & 61 dont really giver it a glowing reference does it? Kindling and Kitchen Wood, not really a hearty endorsement is it?

There is nothing, let alone lots and lots on drying softwood is there? You mentioned pages 60 and 61. It does not really remote the burning of softwood does it? Its hardly lots and lots of Spot-on info on burning soft wood. Kindling and Kitchen Wood and if you want more light hardly constitutes promoting does it? Then the two pages goes on to say that you'll have to sweep everything out that much more regularly. You may thing that does not wash but I sure think it does.

Ok cheers.

Page 60 does state that Scotch Pine is; ''This tree is the ''big game'' most frequently hunted in Norwegian forests. What is does not state is why. There is next to no Hardwood left in Norway, its all been cut down to build ships over the last 1000 odd years. These Scotch Pines are the only ''big game'' left. They are not getting cut down for firewood though. In fact this is the follow on sentence. ''And fully grown Pines are so huge and cumbersome to transport, cut and split that the work demands a disproportionate amount of effort from the Woodsman.'' The paragraph does then go on to say adding Pine to a fire will make an open fire burn more brightly and is a handy for use of light to work by. Thats about it from 190 pages. Kindling, a good light source and ''Kitchen Wood'' and more cleaning required. I'll take two arctic loads, please!

Out of a 190 page book 2 pages hardly constitutes lots and lots on spot-on info does it? Considering those two pages do not even mention seasoning softwood. Ive mentioned Page 60 covers Kindling and ''Kitchen Wood'' I hardly think this is what Mark is referring to? In fact as the same paragraph mentions Birch as ''Living-Room Wood'' Id say it was the exact opposite. Yes, I missed that. ''Smaller Pines make good Firewood'' Take of that extract what you will. Page 60 also states, as Ive already mentioned that burning Pine will require more regular cleaning of the Stove, Chimney and Pipe System if buring a lot of Pine, not due to seasoning but the oil content. It was the exception rather than the rule. It was a passing comment rather than a discussion. It mentions older Soft Woods grown on poor soil. I dont agree, can you point me where it states that? Page 61 specifically states burning a lot of Pine will require regular cleaning due to the oil and nothing to do with seasoning, which, if someone is reading the book would realize that should be done as a matter of course. Of course you could argue that burning any kind of wood would require regular cleaning/sweeping. But its not mentioned for any other wood in the book so the obvious conclusion is burning Pine would require a much more regular interval of cleaning.

Can you quote that?

I’ve covered pages 60 and 61. Page 60 covers Spruce as being good kindling, page 61 mentions the need to sweep your chimney and stove more regularly due to the oil in the wood. Have I missed something?

I’ve been through the book extensively, there is simply nothing there promoting the burning or drying of softwood.

Burning softwood?

Really? Lots and lots of info on seasoning and buring Softwood? I must have missed all those pages? Care to point them out? The model forest on Page 32 is of course Birch. Pine gets a mention on Page 42, as kindling....Then again on Page 60 under the Spruce section its mentioned again, as a great source of, yip you guessed it, kindling. Softwood, or here specifically Spruce is described as ''kitchen Wood'' where as Birch is described as ''Living-Room Wood''. Page 102- Elgå story. Guess what he has harvested, split, seasoned and burned all his life? Yip you guess it. Birch. There is literally picture after picture of Birch trees or Birch logs. The only mention I can specifically find on burning softwoods is not to in open fires and ''The chimney, Stove, and pipe system should be swept regularly, if you burn a lot of pine, because the oil content means it leaves a lot of dry soot.'' - Page 61. Under the Cold facts section the only species of wood to have sections devoted to it is of course the Birch. - Page 186-189; Rate of Drying for Birch, Volume of a Birch Tree, Number of Kilowatt-Hours in a Birch Tree. Maybe you have another issue number to my copy with all this info on seasoning and burning softwood?

You'll have to nail her three times then.

In what way? For firewood or for Milling?

What a load of bollox. Sounds like someone pissed in your chips some time in the past. Envy is a terrible thing.

Did someone buy it?

Or they work hard? Maybe even got an education instead of dossing away their youth?

Source?

Jotøl is Scandinavian. I cant speak for Scandinavians a whole but having lived and/or worked in Norway for 10 years I do not know anyone who burns softwood. Only Birch. Its the King of woods over there. There is vast Birch forests over there and to meet demand they ship in Birch from Eastern Europe. Softwood is reserved for building materials. As as 99% of houses are wood framed with wood cladding that get periodically replaced there is a huge demand for building materials. Out of interest as you're advocating what Scandinavians are doing have you read Norwegian Wood?

Think I'll only bother with it then if its firewood prices. Interesting. Mine is open both ends though so the air just rips through it.

Ive had this once. Went from a 4" cut at one end to a 7" cut at the other (bot only one side. ) as the Clamps had rattled lose.

Damn, you caught me out! Mark obviously thinks you're being serious too.