Logsnstuff

call it yesterdays job or it should have been, busy splitting billets when some guy went up and poached a couple of trees, rate his stumps, I was told he was meant to be some sort of super cutter 3rd post down on the fb. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Logsnstuff/261324553925599

palletline is the one who's quote came back £129 that's quite a difference if your an account holder will give it some thought for the future though,I went with Dalkeith but its still £88+vat.

Thanks will give them a try in the morning.

Got an order this afternoon for a bag into London palletline quoting £129 on their quick quote, looking for some alternatives recommendations.

you saying you don't dress like that everyday anyway

are you using buckles that you can re tension or just the crimps.

same for us we space not an issue if the yard fills just take a bit of field farmer will tack so extra rent on.

I don't have a problem people using kilns but I don't like the fact they tell customers its a superior product because it's been forced in 7 days to 20% instead of 8 - 12 month natural seasoning. a sub 20% log is sub 20% however it got there and will burn the same. too much deception and misleading info. I have had customers try kiln dried and they didnt like it and I also have some who don't like the idea of burning wood to dry wood so my view is there will be business for both until the rhi ends and everyone will be back on air seasoned.

quite agree with you but domestic payments are over 7 years I think not 20. it has been said many times before we need everyone pushing softwood as the more sustainable fuel and it's going to need some authority to promote this because people don't want to listen the their log man. I just finished helping someone split some beech this afternoon and he had some of my 2nds softwood id given the landlord last winter and he couldn't believe how hot it burned was asking if I had any left. planting grants at the moment I was being told people are doing 3 hard to 2 softwood.

was thinking about them for the pallet shipping but it might be worth looking at pack fix type systems at that kind of money.

were they vented though they gave us a sample before but it was the solid sided potato bags

if you decide to order some up let us know the cost I could be tempted with a few that size.

[ame] [/ame] thats the german version there is a translated one somewhere too it's more about his bags than the processing though once you get past the wheels. 1.5m3 nets but think he needs to change his trailer for a crane.

that link is for 2 cube 169 euro or €84.5 per cube so not that far off the €100 there's the guy on youtube running 2 posch processors doing 32tons a day that kind of volume you can probably make good money at these prices he still stacks them up for 6-12 months though.

love the 20% chance of snow not the 80% chance it wont

we haven't bought it yet just priced them,but everyone we have spoken to has told us do not buy a standard forklift as it won't work for us and hard-coring a rented yard seems bad idea to me they are about to start building 3500 houses around us and we could be kicked out anytime. we also intend to use telehandler in the wood for some of the big logs as there is 650 acres of mature woodland on the estate.

pretty sure most of us have tried pushing unseasoned not just to get cash flow through the summer but also takes a bit of pressure of the delivery schedule in the winter, when you get 20 orders wanting next day on the 1st Oct it's a headache to get them delivered and we try to do next day not 5-7 although maybe if we were to take a week or a fortnight we would get earlier ordering.

almost none of our customers want tipped loads they want bags so we're £56k for a delivery vehicle a lot of places we deliver you couldn't access with crane in a trailer option, normal forklift wont work on the sand and mud of our yard so 26k for telehandler £36 a cube for cord (1.5m3 at £55 a ton) you gotta price on worst case scenario unless you want to risk selling at a loss not everyone has processors that can cut 18"+ so more realistically is 2 cube an hr if things go well. tractor running processor is a tank of diesel every 2 days can't remember the volume. usually oldish tractors so a trip to workshop is generally £1k a time you can fix it yourself if your mechanically motivated or you can chop the big ugly stuff during these breakdowns. you also need enough profit to cover your expenses for the breakdowns the wages etc. the rent is similar but we get no buildings so costs us £10k a polytunnel to get the land prepared and put it up. in general your figures seem low to me I would like someone operating a similar size processor to give their opinion on them

nets are a pain in the backside and if we had enough demand to just do bulk bags I wouldn't go near nets but as I'm year round firewood I have time to fill them and we only have a couple of trade customers so 2-3k nets a year very few privates buy nets from us they usually go for a barrow bag.

give us a breakdown of the figures your working on to calculate a fair price it's been a while since anyone posted a breakdown for production storage and delivery. overpaying on timber probably but it can be difficult to source here as the main company harvesting in this area keeps it all themselves and we don't have contacts on estates the 2 estates we used to get from both produce firewood now.

from what your saying , the problem with the industry certainly in my eyes is you and the having a tesco mentality which values your labour at next to nothing you think pricing should be like 10-20% over production cost and nobody will buy if you charge sensible rates, if you run legit on a production of 3-400 tons your not earning much over min wage as it is. there are plenty people happy to buy quality irrelevant of the price. I'm still in business I buy my cord at £55 but all the competition manages to source at £30-£35 with their pricing structures they work more than twice as much to earn the same money I won't be worried until they start producing a similar quality at those prices.

they were cube bags that I posted yesterday I don't have the size to hand but you can get them off the baker site we do both 1m3 and .73. 0.25 and they all have different prices not just a division of a single price so to say the packaging method is irrelevant to a published cube price is nonsense.

nonsense

always refers to the bag anything further is not necessary. putting the various cube prices just complicates it more

you have added complexity when you bring in different bags my 0.73m bag is a different cubic rate to full cube bag and same again for barrows and the nets and then same again for the softwoods so quoting someone your cube price could be 6 or 8 prices but I agree on standardising volume as the measure, the amount of orders we get for a ton or a load have certainly decreased over the last couple of years.