corylus

So do you give a f*** about Combat 18?

Could you expand please. I know syc's hold large but not very diverse biomass, wheras oaks hold very diverse biomass. Tell me more!

Weather here today has been wonderfull (s*** actually). Misty and moist with an easterly. Great for drift migrants. BUT THE MOISTURE CONTENT IN MY LOGSTORE HAS GONE UP TO 22% WOE

Jobs a gudun boy!

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You have a bit of a problem Daveindales. Your not gonna fit in you know. How on earth dare you question things? Of course a lump of metal manufactured in Germany, all that concrete, all that plant is going to save our planet. Obviously us thick Dalesman cant do technical stuff like drive an excavator and pecker so the labour HAS to be shipped in from another county. Come on Daveindales get with it man and help save our planet. Cos if you are not with us then I will just have to ring Sting or Joanna Lumley or................someone to sort you out. Anyway on a less sarcastic note (hope you didnt mine ) I havent been over to see The Bainbridge Screw cos I knew nowt about it. I think I should go and have a gander tho. I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks like you.................trouble is when you try to explain these things to the other chaps (chapesses) in the pub you get a few odd comments/looks:blushing:

The questions raised here re. eco friendly etc, are to be brutal, far too complicated to answer. I will break it down to illustrate this. The removal of the old stock fence.... If left and perhaps tidied it would rust away. Zero extra carbon emissions. BUT an un-naturally high concentration of zinc (the galvy coating) would be left. Which is best 'eco' wise? 3 days cutting back then chipping.....you need feeding for 3 days + travel then carbon/pollution cost of chipper and travelling. Offset this against leaving alone and re-planting with the possibility of less new growth, but does that decreased new growth with less carbon input......etc..........................etc.............................etc.................. Do you see what I mean? The current way of measuring 'carbon footprint' only takes into consideration CERTAIN parts of the manufacturing process. Another GREENWASH. Tree planting is only trying to rectify past mistakes. Mebs the mass extinction of Homo sapien is the most 'eco' friendly way of progressing? Or to put it another way, CONGRATULATIONS Daveindales for thinking. Sadly its not comfortable sometimes. BTW I too have been involved in Yorkshire Dales National Park schemes such as the one mentioned. I think it was, on the 'eco' friendly scale, better to plant than not to. Which area have you done the planting in?

Sadly I would

Cheers Mr T

You aint had chimney problems etc because your wood is seasoned. It can still be wet! I dont sell firewood anymore, just cut for our farm, but the simple RULE is 'the dryer the wood, the more heat you get out of it' cos you have to get rid of the water before the wood starts to gassify (burn) therefore the dryer I can get my wood the less I have to cut up, split, transport, stack, carry into house etc. I hope it seems obvious why people 'worry' so much. I dont seem to have enough time to do everything I want, so I certainly dont want to be processing extra firewood for no good reason (AND we have a limited amount...it doesnt grow on trees you know?)

Cheers....a really interesting calculator. I presume 'outdoor' means covered though. I looked on our local weather station's site and over the last month the average humidity is about 90%. Using 8C as an average temp the emc comes out at 21%, so maybe i'm not doing too bad:confused1: I will look into our yearly average humidity stuff and average temp for each month and then in theory should be able to log at the best time of year (I think NOT:biggrin:) Do we have similar charts for cities here? cos if we do it would be fun to see where the best naturally (outdoor) dried wood came from, what emc it should be and what some of the lads are acheiving. (Have just found average humidity figures for Manchester on WIKI so presumably there is a countrywide list somewhere, but dont have time to investigate futher. Have to go and play with horses!))

Realising recently how cheap moisture meters are, I purchased a state of the art hand crafted one off fleabay for the best part of a tenner Accuracy isnt too important I thought as long as its consistent and I have some interesting results. Hardwood kitchen table near Rayburn which has been on for a couple of weeks and kitchen runs at 20C...12% moisture Fire surround softwood ...12% Internal back door going to unheated porch....19% Elm boards stacked in 'dry' and draughty logstore for years....22% This winters (mixed) logs in above building........22% and up Softwood in above with 'soft' edge.......39% What I thought was 'bone dry' de-barked ash which burns wonderfully....23% Will be interesting to see if the log store logs moisture content falls:confused1: What worried me was the stacked elm boards, am I ever going to get below 22% in the damp but breezy northern hills?

Cant do 'owt but agree with you boy! Dont forget though that WE bore some of CW's costs.

Corylus or may I call you Hazel ? Dont be pushy................we have only just met:blushing:

As I said here http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/firewood-forum/34495-how-big-boys-do.html all this needless processing is only enabled because the global cost of oil is too cheap. The 'hi-tec' wood processors need wood in-wood-out as quick as poss. Sadly and currently is is more profitable to half cook the wood than to let it stand, covered and let nature take its course over a couple of years. OIL is cheaper than TIME. However as far as we know, oil is finite, time is infinite. Rant over........................please continue with your day:biggrin::biggrin:

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This pic should be here Pylon of the Month (as was mentioned in another Arbtalk thread recently)

Dont forget our 'consultancy' fees:biggrin::biggrin:

I will let you know what the fleabay ones are like, but I did want a bit bigger, so if you are on about 1m3 bags, count me in.

Yes and no. 'Greenhew' is a Cumbrian term for the privilege of cutting pollards for leaf fodder (Denyer 1991). Evelyn mentions drying elm leaves for cattle. BUT greenhew can also refer to the lopping of branches for feeding deer in winter (Towards a history of wood pasture in Swaledale, Fleming 1997 in Landscape History magazine) Spot on about holly though. FROM HOLLY AS A FODDER IN ENGLAND MARTIN SPRAY.docx

Hill tops misty, blue skies above.

Found them just before I read yr post. Cheers, they are winging it as I type!!!

Thems the things ta. However want 5-10 to see if they are suitable, sadly not 50! Anyone do smaller quantities??

Does anyone know of a supplier of mesh bags for logs similar to the 1 ton 'dumpy' bags sand etc comes in? I would like to be able to process green wood then leave it in bags to season undercover but in the wind and then lift inside and empty for final drying. Any help suggestions gratefully received.

Ahhhhh Control gear. Ta