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Now that comment reminds me of being a young unmarried man . . .

No, but Ausa do a useful looking "niche" small rough terrain forklift, and a babby telehandler too.

Typical tragedy of the commons stuff, no different to sea fishing.

But is that not a 7490kg veh, i.e.<7500kg but not <3500kg, so not a car? Since my Licence states that for B+E the "B" is less than 3500kg So no good for the B+E classification So, actually, what veh is it?

But, hmmm? Agriculture includes forestry, but can arb work really be considered forestry, so is a tractor really legal in respect of arb work, for domestic customers, and if it is not illegal in other respects should it perhaps be running on clear diesel? P.S. I followed a 175HP Case today, doing 40+ mph, I followed it for some considerable distance too, and def consistently just over 40mph

I got a full 4000kg payload on a Mitisubshi 7500kg beavertail. put buckets in a 750kg tlr behind, or a 3500kg trl if you were astute enough to preserve your 12000kg GTW grandfather rights back in 1997 when they moved the licencing goalposts. I was not unfortunately, which still pisses me off bigtime. marcus

I would probably like to suggest a case against the Police, your sister in law could perhaps state that she felt pressured/blackmailed by the Police effectively holding her dog hostage, until/unless she paid up. And unfortunately, I fear the Police are less concerned about correctly apportioning culpability, than getting a nice tidy hassle free "result", and fcuk the collateral damage. Obviously legal advice is required. Marcus P.S. Would a local MP's office be able to offer any advice or support, re the legalities?

That is why I commented, any I see being walked about our local village are always muzzled, and wor local blokes would not tend to be sticklers for the law, so there must be some leverage.

I tend to agree with Stephen's IW "if it fits" assessment. I presume you are saying why not move on a 7.5 tonne beavertail truck= spot on solution for us older drivers

Your sister in law has my full sympathy, BUT, are greyhounds not required to be muzzled , despite being on a lead. That could have swung it against her. Otherwise I, me, mesel, would have fought it, especially with a witness. Marcus

Apparently Leaving the wood in the water for a year, leaches out the sugars, therefore the wood will not split after cutting? Is this a correct explanation? I can understand it keeps it wet, therefore softer and easier to cut, yes? Plus less grit/no grit. mth

Better live with my wee Kioti a few years yet, it does all I need, but the multi speed PTO on the Hurlimann ud a been nice P.S. see link to my heart throb; http://www.tunstalltractors.com/shop/product/2592/Hurlimann/Prince-55/

Fiddle brakes not working then . . .

Is that a Hurilman?, from the colour of the paintwork. I was drooling over a Hurliman Prince, brand new, and £16,000 + V, but the loader was a tad cumbersome, for less lift capacity too, before I found and bought the wee Kioti. I still got the hots for a Hurliman mind. If it is a Hurliman, man are they a quart in a pint pot, and in a good way. mth

50 odd year ago, perhaps nearer 55, Dad fitted a loader to the B250 International, the loader was badged as IH , but with a plate somewhere stating "Alo", so as an inquisitive child I asked "why"?, as I thought it was an International. Dad explained all about the superb Swedish steel and that these loaders were simply as good as could be got. Actually it was probably the first true "quick detatch" tractor loader. And to my knowledge Alo are still very big in the tractor loader market. Some things never change, with(slight) due apologies to JCB. P>S> It is still sitting about somewhere at the homeplace.

Ding Ding, whos's side am I on, where's me corner? (in reply to Kriss)

I simply cannot understand why any country, the UK in this particular fer instance, cannot look at what other countries do legislatively, in respect of road haulage/transport. that has been proven to work, and simply copy it. Especially since we have been members of that somewhat expensive European club for so long, one wonders why we have not been able to benefit from such proven practical pragmatic practises's. Anyway I cannot see how an engine on a fuel bowser, would be any different from a donkey engine driven Hiab on a trailer, the key being their primary purpose, i.e "to transport stuff", not simply travelling/transporting themselves between sites to work on sites. So, that's a No then? MTH

I do suppose that I must agree that Comrade Corbyn is honest, since that is how we know about his terrorist supporting views, i.e. he made those revealing if deeply unsettling/disturbing statements in unequivocal support of various known terrorist organsations. And as you said, people do indeed have long memories. marcus P.S. I was disturbed to learn that JRM is coming to NI to speak at a fundraiser for the DUP, talk about strange bedfellows. All in all "interesting times"

My EX50 Kioti only weights very little over 2000kg(but possibly/probably without the Kioti loader) and needs about a 500kg counterweight to be stable when maxxing out the loaders 1800kg lift capacity. That is it will lift 2 full straps of dense masonary concrete blocks. But would still be 3500kg towable when so configured.(& Certainly so with a sub 500kg counterweight) And being cabless can enter low roofed buildings. The only downside is the single speed PTO.

O.K. So I read enough of this thread to now feel all grown, sensible, mature, restrained and grown up, well relatively speaking leastwise. So thanks for that. marcusthehat

Well yes Socialist/Markist "lefties" to loosely define the mindset.

I would counter-argue that a lot of the shortage of housing is due to benefit cheats, i.e. those who claim to be living apart, to double(or maximize) their benefit income, in the case of married couples, or daughters getting pregnant to blag a free home, and extra benefits, while still living at home. And the shocking number of divorced couples, requiring 2 dwellings instead of 1. Never mind the trashed/burned/wrecked houses due to substance abuse and downright wanton spiteful badness. Never mind the unpaid rents and disproportinately high repair bills (like 2 new kitchens inside of 9 months, the first being sold for cash by the tenant) in the private sector. And I could take you to local examples if you wish. How can any reasonable society provide for these "needs" ? It is a bottomless pit.

Ah Ha Sir! Shrewdly well observed comments, especially the observation re the clear differences between most siblings. P.S. I will try and find the link to the triplets, put up for adoption and deliberately separated by the authorities(in the US), one placed in a poor home, one in a working/middle class home and the third in a wealthy home. To explore the ongoing nature/nurture debate. Marcus here we go, see link att; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Identical_Strangers

That sign would indeed frustrate new log customers (per the thread title) very apt!

Chessa, I am reasonably certain, that that book you quote, was written to support a particular point of view, in that it, or at least the parts you choose to quote, absolutly fails, or refuse to mention the backsliders, the absolute neerdowells, that simply must exist in any given society. Also the $11000.00 per year accomodation (Utah example) cost has to be falsely low. i.e. it may reflect the bare rental cost but zero maintenance nor utilities. Ditto for the African example, though oddly, since most Africans know what actual true poverty is, they might actually better realize the value of the cash hand-out. As before my opinions are based on my local observations, which definitively reveal that some families from solid family backgrounds will work their way down, some are genuine alcoholics/addicts, some simply feckless with money and some gifted individuals from plainer/rougher backgrounds will refuse to better themselves, and some indeed progress. Regardless of the "free money" so blythly disembursed. (that someone had worked hard to earn) While most in the community knuckle down and survive, which is not easy for them, but they make themselves do it. There are no easy "one size fits all" answers. And any easy-money solution will attract criminals and con-persons(i.e. the Grenfell fire) , such is life. But to deny these facts is not a little disingenuous P.S. I am aware that "shit happens", however most such shit is caused by poor life choices,(or indeed others poor life choices) some/most(and I worked with quite a few examples) refuse to accept that their poor choices were in any way to blame, ergo their lives will not improve. And they continue to blame Society instead. Perhaps that is the basis for the expression "charity begins at home". P.P.S Our son works in a Post Office, involved in handing out benefit payments, staggering sums of "free money" are already being disembursed, to individuals, on a weekly basis. Never mind the equally staggering sums(but always sub £800.00, in each individual transaction) being MoneyGrammed back to Romania Marcus