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That is why I commented, any I see being walked about our local village are always muzzled, and wor local blokes would not tend to be sticklers for the law, so there must be some leverage.

I tend to agree with Stephen's IW "if it fits" assessment. I presume you are saying why not move on a 7.5 tonne beavertail truck= spot on solution for us older drivers

Your sister in law has my full sympathy, BUT, are greyhounds not required to be muzzled , despite being on a lead. That could have swung it against her. Otherwise I, me, mesel, would have fought it, especially with a witness. Marcus

Apparently Leaving the wood in the water for a year, leaches out the sugars, therefore the wood will not split after cutting? Is this a correct explanation? I can understand it keeps it wet, therefore softer and easier to cut, yes? Plus less grit/no grit. mth

Better live with my wee Kioti a few years yet, it does all I need, but the multi speed PTO on the Hurlimann ud a been nice P.S. see link to my heart throb; http://www.tunstalltractors.com/shop/product/2592/Hurlimann/Prince-55/

Fiddle brakes not working then . . .

Is that a Hurilman?, from the colour of the paintwork. I was drooling over a Hurliman Prince, brand new, and £16,000 + V, but the loader was a tad cumbersome, for less lift capacity too, before I found and bought the wee Kioti. I still got the hots for a Hurliman mind. If it is a Hurliman, man are they a quart in a pint pot, and in a good way. mth

50 odd year ago, perhaps nearer 55, Dad fitted a loader to the B250 International, the loader was badged as IH , but with a plate somewhere stating "Alo", so as an inquisitive child I asked "why"?, as I thought it was an International. Dad explained all about the superb Swedish steel and that these loaders were simply as good as could be got. Actually it was probably the first true "quick detatch" tractor loader. And to my knowledge Alo are still very big in the tractor loader market. Some things never change, with(slight) due apologies to JCB. P>S> It is still sitting about somewhere at the homeplace.

Ding Ding, whos's side am I on, where's me corner? (in reply to Kriss)

I simply cannot understand why any country, the UK in this particular fer instance, cannot look at what other countries do legislatively, in respect of road haulage/transport. that has been proven to work, and simply copy it. Especially since we have been members of that somewhat expensive European club for so long, one wonders why we have not been able to benefit from such proven practical pragmatic practises's. Anyway I cannot see how an engine on a fuel bowser, would be any different from a donkey engine driven Hiab on a trailer, the key being their primary purpose, i.e "to transport stuff", not simply travelling/transporting themselves between sites to work on sites. So, that's a No then? MTH

I do suppose that I must agree that Comrade Corbyn is honest, since that is how we know about his terrorist supporting views, i.e. he made those revealing if deeply unsettling/disturbing statements in unequivocal support of various known terrorist organsations. And as you said, people do indeed have long memories. marcus P.S. I was disturbed to learn that JRM is coming to NI to speak at a fundraiser for the DUP, talk about strange bedfellows. All in all "interesting times"

My EX50 Kioti only weights very little over 2000kg(but possibly/probably without the Kioti loader) and needs about a 500kg counterweight to be stable when maxxing out the loaders 1800kg lift capacity. That is it will lift 2 full straps of dense masonary concrete blocks. But would still be 3500kg towable when so configured.(& Certainly so with a sub 500kg counterweight) And being cabless can enter low roofed buildings. The only downside is the single speed PTO.

O.K. So I read enough of this thread to now feel all grown, sensible, mature, restrained and grown up, well relatively speaking leastwise. So thanks for that. marcusthehat

Well yes Socialist/Markist "lefties" to loosely define the mindset.

I would counter-argue that a lot of the shortage of housing is due to benefit cheats, i.e. those who claim to be living apart, to double(or maximize) their benefit income, in the case of married couples, or daughters getting pregnant to blag a free home, and extra benefits, while still living at home. And the shocking number of divorced couples, requiring 2 dwellings instead of 1. Never mind the trashed/burned/wrecked houses due to substance abuse and downright wanton spiteful badness. Never mind the unpaid rents and disproportinately high repair bills (like 2 new kitchens inside of 9 months, the first being sold for cash by the tenant) in the private sector. And I could take you to local examples if you wish. How can any reasonable society provide for these "needs" ? It is a bottomless pit.

Ah Ha Sir! Shrewdly well observed comments, especially the observation re the clear differences between most siblings. P.S. I will try and find the link to the triplets, put up for adoption and deliberately separated by the authorities(in the US), one placed in a poor home, one in a working/middle class home and the third in a wealthy home. To explore the ongoing nature/nurture debate. Marcus here we go, see link att; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Identical_Strangers

That sign would indeed frustrate new log customers (per the thread title) very apt!

Chessa, I am reasonably certain, that that book you quote, was written to support a particular point of view, in that it, or at least the parts you choose to quote, absolutly fails, or refuse to mention the backsliders, the absolute neerdowells, that simply must exist in any given society. Also the $11000.00 per year accomodation (Utah example) cost has to be falsely low. i.e. it may reflect the bare rental cost but zero maintenance nor utilities. Ditto for the African example, though oddly, since most Africans know what actual true poverty is, they might actually better realize the value of the cash hand-out. As before my opinions are based on my local observations, which definitively reveal that some families from solid family backgrounds will work their way down, some are genuine alcoholics/addicts, some simply feckless with money and some gifted individuals from plainer/rougher backgrounds will refuse to better themselves, and some indeed progress. Regardless of the "free money" so blythly disembursed. (that someone had worked hard to earn) While most in the community knuckle down and survive, which is not easy for them, but they make themselves do it. There are no easy "one size fits all" answers. And any easy-money solution will attract criminals and con-persons(i.e. the Grenfell fire) , such is life. But to deny these facts is not a little disingenuous P.S. I am aware that "shit happens", however most such shit is caused by poor life choices,(or indeed others poor life choices) some/most(and I worked with quite a few examples) refuse to accept that their poor choices were in any way to blame, ergo their lives will not improve. And they continue to blame Society instead. Perhaps that is the basis for the expression "charity begins at home". P.P.S Our son works in a Post Office, involved in handing out benefit payments, staggering sums of "free money" are already being disembursed, to individuals, on a weekly basis. Never mind the equally staggering sums(but always sub £800.00, in each individual transaction) being MoneyGrammed back to Romania Marcus

For whatever reason, I was thinking of the plight of the homeless this winter, perhaps triggered by an account from our son, describing a bloke staggering about in the busy street outside the shop he works in. I could not help suggesting that the bloke was looking to blag a spot in a hospital bed for over the Christmas period. That and the charity who booked a 1 night stay in a hotel for a group of homeless, I can only presume under some pretext/cover story, only to have the booking cancelled by the hotel, presumably when they found out it was for the homeless. The Hilton group then stepped in. I did wonder why this charity, or its staff, did not perhaps put the homeless up in their own homes, for Christmas? Perhaps they do, but it was not mentioned, and the cynic in me doubts it anyway. However, all that aside, how do you help those who will not be helped, or cannot be trusted to look after, or are incapable of looking after(their) accommodation, bedding and utensils. For whatever mental health/substance abuse issue(s) Money, or relative poverty is the smallest part of their problem(s), simply because no amount of cold hard cash can fix their lives. And paying people to do so, only, mostly, creates more jobsworths, middle management and overpaid Executivies. Whether such organisations are run Government, Council or Charity, no bloody odds. marcus

I was and still am pissed at the "knowledge" (O.K. from 10 to 15 year ago) which "stated" that one sized the heatstore volume on boiler output, not the firebox size= total heat output, and there was considerable variance in firebox sizes in the 30-50kW boilers I was looking at. And simply because of the £ cost and footprint of the heatstores, they=those quoting for the work, always kept them as small as they could get away with. Ditto for flue heights. So I ended up with a 2200l on a 40kW, and in hindsight reckon double that would have been better fit. Ditto for the 5.5m flue height.

Whale Oil beef hooked. Obviously! Like.

O.K. I score 2 out of Vesp's 3 essential court appearances. 1 in my late teens, the other in my late 50's Does that make me a bad person? marcus

As the old country adage states; "As the days do lengthen the cold it do strengthen"

I simply used a single leg ripper/subsoiler at about 20/24" deep which both gave me straight lines,(and I simply stepped out/eyeballed the distances between trees) , plus it bust the very well established sod and loosened the soil/subsoil, which made the planting a doddle. This was in 10-15 year old untended ungrazed pasture, and I needed some help before setting too with a spade. marcus

Bob, Indeed as I alluded to with my Factor Of Safety comment re the old winches, i.e. overpulling past their rated loads until something fails, and where did hydraulic winches ever be mentioned by me? I have due respect for older tractors and technology, but HP is HP, and pulling power is pulling power. The one thing about an older dedicated winch tractor, is like the "beware the man with only one gun, for he knows it well" it, the winch tractor, will be a well known quantity to its owner operator. And untwist yer knickers re yer supposedly worthless opinion, I for one, rate your vast and empirical knowledge, cheers Marcus P.S. Some of the local farmers who had local Bogland re-claimed back in the grant aided 50's or 60's still reminise about "Tugtug" a local winch equipped Nuffield, running an 1" wire rope, used for recovering stuck diggers/bulldozers.