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Well done Justin for keeping your cool with the leaf blower customers on Friday afternoon. Some people are so cheap you would have to given them a penny so they could afford some class. It would of been great if you had some all terrain shopping trolleys to get the goodies back to the car given the APF numpties parked the people that arrived earliest furtherest away from the show on Friday:thumbdown:

You can also press F7 to start the spell checker.

I am sure that you are aware of Ben Law; Ben Law Woodsman I believe he runs a course on how to get consent and has published a book about this too! I am also aware of some one in East Sussex who got planning permission for a dwelling in a woodland BIG BUT consent is dependent on his ownership and working in the woodland it not be transferable to a new occupant! One my happiest days at work was walking around a woodlot site gathering evidence for Article 4 Notices on newly built structures in the woods.

The ecu is in a CA and it was to stop the annoying neighbour from keep phone the LPA asking us to do something about it. I said I will TPO it if they kept submitting CA notifications to the LPA for works that they owner would not undertake and they were not willing to paying for. In all honesty, I should not go back to being a TO, I have a very short fuse when tried and MOP's (members of the public) can do my head in when they ask silly questions or their negation style is to shout at you:blushing: Funny thing is, I am always extra polite to someone that has the power to make a decision that will benefit me.

When, I was a TO for some reason I really upset one of SJ consultants. I just pointed out that just because a tree is a category C according to BS 5837 does not mean it can not be placed within a group TPO. That BS 5837 is not a methodology for assessing which trees should be protected within a TPO. Finally, I stated to them that it was up to them to negotiate the crap category C away within a landscape condition in an approved landscape scheme. For those reasons that got all up themselves and came over with attitude that is not what is need when you are looking for consent now:001_tt2: Janey Lewisham council are looking for a TO and Westminster what temporary cover via various agency's. I know that you will be sure to remember to state that you have passion and commitment to diversity within the work place. To these types of question, I always answer that I love every tree including sycamore and Leylandii:lol: However one old boss would not let we TPO eucalyptus:confused1:

That is truly amazing:thumbup: Will you be at the APF? I again am truly gob-smacked well do to you sir:lol:

I throught that the legal authority for application of the statutory exemption is to be found in the case Smith v Oliver [1989] 2 P.L.R? This found that a prudent citizen looking at the tree in question and deciding in his own mind weather he can properly say the trees are dangerous. I was not aware the above authority had been superseded with a new legal test has anyone got the fully details?

Will the goodies include a burger or sausage in a bun with a can or two? You have the BBQ sets you just need the BBQ and few bits of random meat and a veggie burger just in case:sneaky2:

That is a picture of the yo yo system, this is shown at the end of the video; [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF-xkQrb-6s]YouTube - Ascending - Frog Type Systems[/ame] Once you have the gear and the rhythm this is a easy way to get up and down a tree.

I have a two day ticket for the show, I will be buying myself a MS260 and some new boots (not sure which ones yet). What will be the show price for the MS260:thumbup: and the BBQ set:lol: How comes they have a BBQ set but no BBQ? I am staying with my relatives in the west midland so if your not very careful you might have them inspecting all your wears and asking some very silly questions:001_tt2:

I came across spray on grass in north American, it might be worth considering have a look at the following link; RMB Craftscapes Ltd - Hydroseeding Specialists: Hydroseeding

There are many faiths in this world the following are just a few of them; Baha'i, Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, Wicca, Zoroastrianism, and Druidism etc. They all have a creation story or they borrow a story from each-other, they cannot all be correct methodology for the creation of the planets and organisms

There are many creation theory's not just the one in the Torah, my personal favourite is the ancient Egypt creation story. It has to be remember it was Darwin and not Dawkins that published the theory of evolution. I remember reading the Self Gene at college and it made me want to study biology, it is a great book. I do think that without understanding the basics of evolution theory it does make difficult to understand all biological organisms. How many times have you heard this said about a died or dying tree 'but it flowered really well last year the best in years are you sure it is dying'? This can easily be explained by knowing just a little about evolution theory. On creation theory if all biological organisms were designed by a supreme being then why did they need to practise by creating such organism as Rhynia? You would of throught that this supreme being would of got their design specification right the first time and there was no need to practise with the creation of any now redundant fossilised organisms? Just goes to show not even supreme beings are prefect and that they need to practise.

I apologise in advance if my comments on VTA do not appear to be very positive or constructive. The big issue, I have with VTA is the complete lack or even an acknowledgement on how genes are a major influence along with the environment on the bio-mechanics of living organisms. The title of Claus's lateness book 'Secret design rules of nature' says it all really, NO biology organism has ever been designed they have all EVOLVED. The lack of knowledge and understanding of even the basics of evolution theory is a limiting factor on the ability to understand trees. The only function for a living organism is to produce the next generation to ensure its genes will be continue within the next generations and after its death. Plants, animals, virus, bacteria and all biological organism are amazing in there ability to succeed in hostile environments and produce the next generation. In my humble opinion 'The Selfish Gene' should be on the reading list for all Arb courses. Without understanding that trees must produce a new generation in order to be a successful biological organism how can we beginning to understand their functions and forms? Biology is far form sample there are often to many known and unknown variables to put into a simple equation. Also, the question has to be asked why do we need these equations, what are we managing and for whom? The proper and only use of VTA is as a methodology for diagnosing visible defects within in a tree. It is not a method for understanding 'rules of nature'!

I finding this painful to watch, I know some of the answers to questions that you are asking because, I was taught them on my forestry degree course. However, because this give me the opportunity to gain TO and consultant jobs, i have been taught a lot of useful points along the way. So, I think you might find the following useful if not PM your mobile number for a quick chat? 1. A good book is Woodland Management A Practical Guide, Chris Starr (2005) forget Cyril 2. he states the following on p80 Site Survey; a) Ownership and Boundaries b) Surroundings c) Historical and archaeological evidence d) External constraints e) Habitats f) Woodland age and structure g) Soils and climatic influences h) Biodiversity i) Statutory designations i) can be found at Forestry Commission - Advanced Search or MAGIC Interactive Map for a TPO search contact the local LPA 3. Your problem with the slander stand grown trees calculate a widthrow hazard class Forest Research - Tree stability and climate 4. When undertaking Tree Risk Audits, I do not record trees under 15cm given according to Matheny and Clark this small size of tree rarely fails. This has become common practise within the industry with some consultants. 5. How much time per tree well... It has been known for consultants when bidding for Highway Tree Risk Audits to estimate less than 60 seconds for each tree 6. I know of at least three people that use digital recorders to make their site notes when survey. I dislike doing woodland plans, but these days you very really have to go on about discount rates and valuation of timber. However recently, I have done a couple for small parcels of land next to M and A roads these were relevantly easy to do by using 2 as a format. Also, I knew the management priority's for the site without these woodland management plans are almost impossible to write because there are to many operations that you can undertake within woodlands. Have you been given a budget for any woodland operations? Good Luck PS. You can print woodland maps off the FC site to scale get yourself an A3 printer and scanner very useful.

I can not remember why, I know that Honey Brother stock it; Cobra Bracing from Honey Brothers I think, I had to get some prices to replace some old cable bracing

Found the following on the AA website; Visual Amenity Valuation of Trees and Woodlands (The Helliwell System) Arboricultural Association Guidance Note 4 Current Helliwell Point Values: From 1st January 2010 Note: Due to a negative RPI announced in January 2010 (for the first time since records began) this year’s point value has gone down by 0.5% of the 2009 value Individual Trees: £25.87 Woodlands: £103.48 From 1 January 2009 to 31 December 2009 Individual Trees: £26.00 Woodlands: £104.00 Guidance Note 4 ? Visual Amenity Valuation of Trees and Woodlands

The use of pruning to control clay shrinkage subsidence was studied in Hortlink 212 project; http://www.myerscough.ac.uk/downloads/pdfs/Subjects/Arboriculture%20-%20NYTOG/NWTOG07/HortLink%20Project%20Final%20Report%20(2004).pdf I found this looking for Hortlink 212; http://www.myerscough.ac.uk/downloads/pdfs/Subjects/Arboriculture%20-%20NYTOG/NWTOG07/FINAL_ARB_CASE_STUDY_Technical_Paper_Sept07.pdf In brief pruning does not work that a regular crown reduction of 70% on a London plane only had a small affect in the amount of water removed from a clay soil.

The keyword in my posting was 'reasonable adjustments', I am noting going to share with you why, I need them and there are various statutory laws that require all organisation to provide them to me. I only went to the management day once and that was sufficient for me to discover that the format of the exam is impossible for me to pass without adequate reasonable adjustments. When, I attempted to arrange these for the second time ABC Awards were very unhelpful. What is ironic, I was told this before I went for the management day and did not believe the pair of them. I have worked for one of the evil twins Arb firms of the vegetation clay shrinkage the question was silly and irrelevant just read the SCOPE of NHBC Chapter 4.2 (2005). I might not have the ability to spell correctly with out the aid of a spell checker but I have NEVER inserted statements in reports from yet to be issued, superseded standards and or irrelevant documents. I now also remember that the examiner did not know that beech (Fagus sylvatica) had been up graded from a moderate 'water demand' (warning this term has no biological meaning it was meant for builders) to a high 'water demand' tree in 2005. I would suggest that if you are going to ask silly questions you should at least know the lateness version of the irrelevant oracle you are basing your questions on.

I had already been a Tree Officer's and was working as an Arb Consultant thanks to my Forestry degree. I have no surprise that the people that have passed the management day have no issue with the format of it. As, I said ABC awards were not very helpfully with arranging reasonable. When, I was at Uni the identification test was open book and not a spell test, this is very common at colleges and Uni. The marking scheme seems to be a little odd for this test you get 5 marks out of ten because you can the spell the sample correctly (have they not heard of a spell checker) also you get one mark for noting when a plant is native but no marks for noting it is a non-native, this not the only anomaly in the marking scheme. The other assessments out-side who in the REAL WORLD does not sit down at a desk with a computer and a spell check and write woodland management plans, risk assessments and BS 5837 reports are these assessments testing your knowledge and expertise or your ability to undertake exams in the great British outdoors? When you are out on a site visit there is no one disturbing you in mid throught asking you questions if these were so important to being a competent Arb why weren't they on the exam paper? Finally unlike the exam paper the examiners know who the candidates are! This is meant to be for people coming from a craft level, the majority of these people probably do not consider themselves as academic yet they have a spell test in it and are useless at arranging reasonable adjustment. When, I was at Uni I had extra time and used a laptop to type up my mid-term and end of year exams. Given that so many people undertake surveys using hand held computer why are these not allowed to be used when undertaking the outside exams?I am not sure but, I think that it is a peer examination so the past mark changes from year to year. The syllabus for the exam is great but the method that they use to test this knowledge is fundamentally unfair and more irrelevant by the day.

I was told that it was a waste of time me doing a Tech Cert because I have a forestry degree. I enjoyed the course at Merrits and passed the exam at the first time of trying. I did go for one management day exam but soon realised that it is complete set up. The examiner knew some of the candidates, I was asked some very silly questions about subsidence in the BS5857 exam. The woodland and the identification exam are really just memory and spelling tests without the benefit of siting down somewhere comfortable. I did think about retaking the management day and went on the Tree Life preparation day but after been talked to like an idiot by one of the examiners and having a very unsuccessful conversation about reasonable adjustments with one examiners and ABC Awards. I decided that it just was not worth the pain and hustle of having a second go at the management day. Also if you want to do an Arb or Forest degree it is cheaper and easier to A Levels on-line or at evening school/college.

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Do you have professional indemnity insurance to give such advise? Have you considered that there was a reason why your competitors did not raise this issue to the potential client? Finally are you sure that the potential client is located on London or Weald Clay you are near the Kent fruit belt of Green Sands? I throught that if you kept it simple i.e. Given that I am being employed as a professional Arb contractor, I can not express any professional opinion on any consequence of removing the tree from site.

Thank you Tony that was a great summary of the document. I found the document very difficult to read given its formatting and lack of diagrams, figures, pictures etc. I also got bored of reading the same old tree propaganda section at the being of the document. In the risk section given there probably are not the stats anywhere there was no mention of near risks or injury caused by trees. I throught that more than a bit odd, I wonder if there is an attempt to play down the risk? Putting my old Highways hat on, I found the document more than disappointing. But than again, I understand that this document is not really the base line for Local Authority or is it? I also have a large problem with the suggestion that trees along rural public footpaths do not have to be assess. The need for assessment should be determined by the occupancy of the target area for some rural public footpath this can be high i.e. national park, footpaths in those pub walking books etc. I wounder if this recommendation has been put in as the request of the country landowners association. I believe one of the reason they were against the CROW Act was that this could increase the liability of their owners. Did anyone else not note in one of the examples that an AA contractor was used but in the Council example they just used contractors. I wonder if this is a plug for the AA but the reality is that with all Council budgets being cut by 10% this is not an affordable reality. That bring me nicely to costs given that they will not be a lot of money in the next four years for most service provide by local or national government and their agents. I predict either two strategies will be adopted for tree risk management; 1 only urgent works carried out 2. carryout all works necessary to removal all risk permanently i.e. why repollard every year when you can fell it now. This document in its current form could be used to justify tree risk management policy 1 i.e. only need to do urgent works given tree risks failures that result in death are very rear there is no need to prune the majority of hazards within failure of a high value target like a highway. But the stats in this document are based on the old tree Arb methods of pruning out the hazards in closed proximity to the highway. Therefore will not the adoption of policy 1 result in more tree failures and deaths and how many deaths or injury's will it take before this document will be reviewed. All in all a very disappointing document, I come to the conclusion that it is trying to meet the needs of several different audiences and failing to meet the needs or concerns of any.

That is so class, I love Buckie:lol: I went to Glasgow earlier in the year, I could not believe how cheap the drink was up there:thumbup1: