Aspen@AAOIL

WOW at the amazing feedback offered in this thread. The difference in the level of positive response from when we first came onto arbtalk many years ago is incredible to see. Just a thought, to anyone reading this who works for a company which doesn't currently provide alkylate petrol, get in touch via PM and we can send you all the information you need in order to show them how Aspen can benefit their business. ?

You can get Aspen 2 from Nu-blades in Derby http://www.mowerpro.co.uk/lawnmower-dealers/nu-blades

Hi AllyH If the machine is in good condition mechanically, there is nothing to say it cant be run on Aspen 2. if the machine hasnt been used for a long time however you might need to replace carb diaphragms or retune it to run on Aspen however.

Aspen has been the leading producer in alkylate fuels for small engined machinery since 1988 and this isnt about to change any time soon! so yes it is different to Aspen. Not being able to run the 572xp on pump fuel with correctly mixed good quality 2-stroke oil is nonsense (check the manual) although if you are looking for the best fuel/oil for your machines and your health in general however, then Aspen 2 is available from over 350 stockists in the UK Today! https://aspenfuel.co.uk/where-to-buy/

No worries stubby, just dont want you or anyone to think that we are difficult to deal with because i would like to thinkthat we are the opposite. If a dealer has been neglected since Eddie stopped working for us then its great if we can be made aware. its hard to deal with a problem if you arent aware of it... Just so you are aware, nothing in our policy has changed since Eddie has left which would make it dificult for a dealer to stock our products.

Hi Stubby, do you care to share with me the name of your local dealer. Perhaps in a PM rather than on the public forum. Husqvarna fuel has no connection with Aspen, it is produced by a third party. Aspen is the original alkylate fuel and is the only company to produce their fuel in-house. FYI most dealers order Aspen on a pallet which consists of 54 cans but we dont have a minimum order as such. Garden kit sells this in a week during peak times in the summer to put it in perspective

99.9% of people would mean Aspen 2 (ready made mixture) https://aspenfuel.co.uk/products/aspen-fuel/#aspen2

@Pureevil222 wow thats some story and as you say, you have gone into a lot of trouble if it was to cover up a lie. Aspen 2 is the same as Aspen 4 just with added oil so the smell is very similar. As you say, if it was neat "gas" in the tank then you would certainly be able to smell the difference. good luck with your quest to get your machine fixed. from what you have said it doesn't sound like you are in the wrong and if the machine has done as little work as it has then it should be obvious by the condition of the saw. Just for the record, leaving modern fuel (gas) in your machine for a long period of time can cause carburetor issues which arent covered under warranty. Its a shame that the shop didn't sell your father Aspen 2 from day 1!

sounds like something doesn't add up here. Are you saying that the machine seized instantly, the first time your dad went to use it after they repaired it? before your dad even got to use the chainsaw? and that they didnt show him that it was running when he picked it up?

Hi Ed, There are no plans to bring the 20L aspen cans to the UK for the simple reason that you cannot sell petrol in plastic cans larger than 10L in the UK. Speak to your local dealer and ask if they have any offers on buying multiple cans at one time Axel

4 Mix engines must be run on low ash 2-stroke oils or you will run into soot build up on the valve stems which will lead to a breakdown in the long run. The oil in Aspen 2 was upgraded to offer the best protection when these machines came to market.

Hi Stubby, I'm sorry that you arent able to get Aspen from DM chainsaws at this moment in time, fortunately there are a few other stockists in your area which can be found on our website https://aspenfuel.co.uk/where-to-buy/ in addition to what Barrie has already said, we have had a very busy year here at AAOIL with Aspen sales rapidly increasing and taking on new members of staff that require training. I personally cover the small area which covers DM chainsaws and i will try to catch up with them soon to find out why they haven't got any stock at the moment. As Barrie already pointed out however, it only takes about a minute for a dealer to place an order with us and have it within a couple of days Whilst Eddie doesn't work for us any longer, you will still find him championing Aspen at his new job at Chichester farm machinery which coincidentally isn't so far from you! Axel

Hi Chris, Aspen isn't available in Australia at this current time. check on Aspen Fuels to see if it becomes available in the future. You can get stihl motomix in Australia but i don't believe it is the same product as you can buy in the UK which is similer to Aspen. In Australia i assume it is a similer blend as motomix in America, simply ready mixed ethanol free fuel which has no emission/health benefits.

Great to hear Matthew! look forward to hearing your feedback One thing to bear in mind, if your machine has been running lots of regular fuel in the past, It is likely to take a few tanks before you really see the benefits of Aspen. On some machines, especially if the user has been running very rich oil mixtures. It may actually produce a little more smoke when initially switching to Aspen as it has a cleaning effect which burns of the residue built up inside your engine.

Hi Matthew, Aspen began producing fuels which were designed especially for this reason in 1988 and has been the market leader in fuels for small engine machinery ever since. Have a read on arbtalk about peoples feedback on the product. The majority of people who switch over to Aspen fuel for their machines would never go back to regular 2-stroke mix after giving it a try. I suggest you pop into your nearest dealer and give it a try or give us a call if you require any more information. Aspen Fuel :: Stockists regards Axel

Correct, although as Garden kit much rightly pointed out. The chances of this being a contributing factor to the guys starting problems are very slim. The same thing could happen with Pump fuel too, however the change is ever so slight with Aspen that you are unlikely to see a problem. running winter grade pump fuel during summer however you are way more likely to have starting issues with vapour lock then you ever would using Aspen. RVP (Reid Vapour Pressure) only varies between 55-65 kPa in Aspen compared to 45-95 kpa in pump fuel.

Hi Rob, if you have not had any difficulty starting this saw before then it sounds like this is related to the unusually hot weather we are experiencing in the UK just now. I am not sure if there are any known starting issues with this model saw in hot climates. There is a good chance you are getting vapour lock in your fuel system. Are you using fuel purchased during winter? Aspen is seasonally adjusted (as is pump fuel) to aid easier starting during hot or cold conditions depending on the season. I'm not saying this is the problem you are experiencing but it is worth knowing. If you let me know the batch number printed on the can i can let you know either way.

Hi Dan, The biggest problem with 2-stroke machines is that they emit a lot of un-burnt fuel. depending on the machine, this can vary from around 15-30%. This is one of the downsides of 2-stroke engine design and is the reason why Husqvarna designed the X-Torq system which helps lower this figure. Knowing exactly what it is you are breathing in at any given point is virtually impossible to measure but by using a cleaner fuel such as Aspen you can reduce your exposure to aromatics and benzene in particular quite dramatically. perhaps this will give you a better visual understanding of the difference that simply switching fuels can make on your machineries benzene emissions (carcinogenic)

It isn't mandatory but alkylate petrol is recommended if you are using 2-stroke equipment at work in Sweden. It has been used so long over there that it has become standard practice, just like wearing chainsaw trousers etc.

Thanks to everyone that came and said hello to us over the busy couple of days. Great to meet so many people who already enjoy the benefits of our products and at the same time it was excellent to see how many teams of guys (and girls) were excited to learn about our products. Times are definitely changing

Hi all, Just wanted to invite you all to come by our stand tomorrow and Saturday at the Arb show. Come and find out what its all about and how our bulk delivery service can benefit your business. Joining us for the show, professional arborist Tony Gascoyne will be available to talk to you about his experiences since switching to Aspen fuels in 2011. If you area already using our products, please come by and say hi. Thanks Axel

Sounds like you are both very lucky people, either that or your local fuel stations are providing something different to the rest of the country. Modern machines have a tendency to be more susceptible to stale fuel problems. This largely comes down to the fact that modern machines are set up to run much leaner than before due to having to meet todays emission standards.

Any Husqvarna dealer in Ireland should be able to get Aspen for you if they dont allready stock it.

It's a lot closer than from Poole in Dorset mind...

Dear Arbtalkers/Aspen lovers Due to the growing popularity of Aspen fuels in the UK, we are pleased to announce we are looking to recruit a new member to the team. We are looking for an enthusiastic and social individual to oversee sales in the North of England and Scotland. A brief description of the job: As a sales person for Aspen fuels, you will be responsible for sales within northern England and Scotland. Your key clients will be garden machinery dealers, hire shops and other suitable outlets. You will develop a business relationship with each shop and their employees. As a sales person, you will be responsible for the complete sales process including developing new business with new shops, training shop staff about the technical aspects of the product and how to market it to their customers. You will also be responsible for maintaining/entertaining current dealers, working closely with them to develop their Aspen business further and educating them about new products or campaigns in their area. You will also be working with end users of the product such as councils, tree surgeons, landscapers and golf clubs. Educating them about the benefits of Aspen fuels before pointing them to their nearest suitable dealer. Being situated in your area is a bonus so that you can easily get to your customers. Ideally based within Birmingham-Manchester-Lincoln, Up to 100 overnight stays in hotels are to be expected so that you can be out in the field 4-5 days per week. Bi-weekly or monthly meetings will be held at company HQ in Poole, Dorset. A company vehicle will be provided and a driving licence is a must. Please see attached PDF for full job description. If you have a background in sales or fancy a change in careers and you have been working with our products, then this could be the job for you. please send any enquiries or CV's to [email protected] Thank you Axel Job opportunity at Anglo American Oil Company - Northern sales person.pdf