scottythepinetree

I have posted a couple of other videos on this thread that explain it a lot better than I can in a few paragraphs. They are pretty long, but very interesting whether you agree with the application or not. It's pretty simple, but it's a deceit that makes it complicated. Basically, he doesn't have the authority to order you to do anything. If he gives you an order you can present him with a bill for fulfilling that order. It's only when a policeman doesn't suss that the person he is talking to has a better understanding of how the system works than he does that it becomes really interesting. The reason for this is that, although he doesn't understand it (and you can't blame him because he isn't taught the true meaning of the law), a judge will understand what you are doing, and will try to put the matter to bed as quickly as he can, ie. throw the case out before it costs the state a fortune, and before it becomes a big enough deal for people to notice. They don't want you to notice. Case Law has nothing to do with it. This is based on precendent between 2 or more parties that have submitted to have their case arbitrated by a judge. The law of the land, or Common Law literally boils down to a person actually causing damage to a person or their property. It does not include engaging in activities that MAY cause damage to another person. The police are well within their rights to try to prevent you causing harm, but have no authority until you have Actually done so. Statutes are "laws" based on Acts which are passed by Parliament. They are written in a very specific legal language, that you are incapable of understanding unless you have studied Law at degree level or above. You don't have to submit to anything you don't understand, so why would you? I'm not absolutely sure who discovered this, but there is growing movement of people who call themselves Freemen who use this information at every oppurtunity and believe it or not some of them are very popular with the more Senior members of the Police Forces of their respective countries. The reason being, if you ask a decent Policeman if he joined to a) help people or b) collect revenue, you can pretty much guess what the answer will be. We won't lower ourselves to aknowledging those who answer c) to give people a good slap every now and then. Once a decent but jaded Police Officer has had the time to cool down and think about it, they realise that if more people understood the way the law works (the truth of it) that they don't have to be the big bad copper anymore. They can now go back to doing what they are supposed to do - help people who need help.

Hire someone with a brush cutter!!

You couldn't be more wrong mate. They can request that you come with them and you can refuse. If they give you an order, that is different. You can still refuse to give them your legal identity as oppossed to your physical person. If they don't have your legal identity they can't charge you with anything other than a crime. Crime here must be a contravention of the law of the land, and has nothing to do with statute. Furthermore, you can go to a notary public and get him to sign your "rate card" ie. a card that puts into public knowledge how much you think your time is worth. This YOU decide. If the policeman then orders you to accompany him and you comply (your only choice as physical violence contravenes the law of the land) you can then give him your rate card and later, a bill for every minute of your time he had taken up. It sounds pretty far-fetched if you haven't heard of the Freeman movement before, but more people than they will ever admit to are putting it into practice on a daily basis. Also almost every policeman or woman who has been put through the wringer because of it has come out the other side a better cop. (And there have been quite a few). The idea is to seperate a cop's 2 jobs and putting them back in the right order of importance. Guardian of the people first, Revenue taker 2nd. Also as someone else on this thread has stated already, I very much doubt the cyclist put himself in any danger. There are plenty of cops out there who are only too easy to get a rise out of.

Brush cutter is the easiest to get rid of them with.

Are you saying you condone police brutality? What if the cop could arbitrarily make up laws and decided to give you a fine for J-walking on your own driveway and then gave you a hiding for objecting? This is essentially what the cop in the video was doing, making up laws.

The cop had no rights under the law to arrest him. In fact doing so, could have ended his career. The camera man was illustrating a common misunderstanding of the difference between statute and law. The road traffic act (or your version of it) is a statute and as such you are not obliged to follow it. You can submit to following it and this is how society works. The camera man isn't a law student, he is a exercising his rights as a free man. It's pretty interesting stuff. You can check it out here: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFEQN_axz2k]YouTube - allcingeye robert menard Magnificent Deception[/ame] and here for an UK version (which is pretty much exactly the same thing): [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k]YouTube - John Harris - It's an illusion Part 1/5[/ame] The truth is basically that a policeman has 2 roles. One is as a Guardian of the Peace - Common Law. Here he has power to stop you doing harm to someone. He can only stop you causing harm he cannot punish you for trying. He can however arrest you for having hurt someone. The other role is as an Agent of the Law - Statutes. Or law in legalese which you can submit to, but you can also choose to ignore. The lie is that they do everything they can to make you think you have to submit to it.

Tree or catapult? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEz5KsjXJP8]YouTube - Tree cutter[/ame]

That's decided it then, as I'm climbing on Tachyon at the moment. Now have to explain to the soon to be missus (May 7th), why there's 200 quid missing out of the wedding fund. Maybe she won't notice till after the wedding!

LOL reckon it'd be hard to resist the temptation. Might save a bit extra and get a new rope for when I knacker mine doing the same thing, learning the SJ.

That would have me a bit concerned too. I am saving for one at the moment, but if it means replacing a rope a couple of times a year, plus the pretty hefty price of the SJ, I think they may have just priced themselves out of the market. What rope you using Steve? Could it be a technique issue? Can you post a pic of the glazing? Also would anyone have an idea of what rope might not be as susceptible to damage by the SJ?

Wouldn't be too concerned about it. The lad in question, like all the lads who are provided climbing gear in our crew aren't exactly meticulous in there kit inspections. His probably had signs of coming undone for quite a while, he just never noticed. If you own one of these harnesses would be worth giving special attention when inspecting your kit.

No probs. Seriously though, if anyone needs a grafter this lad is your man. Top bloke to boot.

I've got a day for you Sat week if you want it. Bring your truck!!

Buy my own harness as the boss buys those ones for all the lads, and I just can't get on with them. 6 climbers in work, 6 sequioas, zero problems with the stitching. Reckon you got a dodgy one. One of the lads, had the little black piece in the ring for the bridge come off while up a tree. Could have been disasterous. Worth keeping an eye on.

Try to find out who designed their website? Pretty swanky looking site.

Well done to you and the missus. Looks like a future bruiser!!

Was going to get a quote from these guys for the same thing: Home Cinema UK

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I wonder could they be set up some way that they feed a 10mm lanyard through an pulley and hitch? If I had the spare cash I'd try it out for sure. Saving for a SJ though!!!

Had exactly the same thing happen to me. Luckily I only fell a few feet into a large crotch below. Couple of bruised ribs and a swollen wrist but nothing serious. Was 40' up at the time. Am more careful on ivy covered trees now because of it. Rope in to the biggest thing I can find on the way up, and clear all ivy off my high anchor before starting work.

Only Edelrid 10mm rope I can find is dynamic. Is this ok as a lanyard? What friction cord/device do you use with it? Very tempted to upgrade my gear. Tinker with it to eliminate all those annoying niggles. Usually just daisy chain the unused lanyard rope but find the extra weight kept close to the pulley sometimes pulls all the slack through. Really annoying when hanging off a branch one-handed when you discover what has happened .

If you think the high attachment point on your harness makes you sit back, think you'll find a lower attachment point like the treemotion or skylotec will force you to lean bac more. Edelrid treemagic probably closer to what you are looking for, or a Petzl. High attachment point, makes you stand more upright when moving about the tree in my experience. You should try a few before settling on one that suits you the best.

Just in case you don't know: As high as possible, but also around the main stem on a limb at least as thick as your forearm. Go a little bigger on brittle species, can go a little smaller on stronger ones. Keep an eye out on here for climbing get togethers. Do you use a cambium saver? They can make all the difference on limb walks as you aren't battling a load of friction. If you have a few quid to splash out a rope-guide would be better again. Friction is the enemy of smooth climbing.

Just have in read your post, sounds similar to a problem we had a while ago with a jeep my boss bought. Checked everything, brake calipers, tracking rods, brake discs, control arm bushings, suspension, tyres, wheel bearings, etc. couldn't figure the problem until hours into our search we discovered.... ... a little green badge on the front of the bonnet!!