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Well ve, you've personally experienced being sucked in and fooled by the lies and misinformation that was pumped out around the initial tragedy. The details of the attacker specifically. You lapped it up and got straight on here to broadcast it as soon as you could, certainly way too quickly for common decency. Just to further your own distasteful personal agenda and attempt to make some political capital. Since the actual truth has come out you've proceeded to fill 20 pages on here by arguing with everyone and anyone that dares to call you and your BS out. All the while seemingly justifying/defending the ensuing riots and barbaric behaviour. With nonsensical arguments about BLM/2 tier policing/Starmer/mass casualties/equal and fair policing without prejudice regardless of race, religion or political affiliation, blah blah blah. All to cover your initial mistake. Not your finest week ve. Anyway. To paraphrase: The perception “ be it real or not “ of unfair policing is behind a lot of the trouble we see right now. -- really? I think you're projecting again.

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Yep, there's plenty of them too. They just scuttled off quicker than I could get a photo, and quicker than the very wriggly worms. The filthy looking slugs obviously stand no chance of getting away.

It would be ironic though, given the gact that the individual that indirectly precipitated all of this "protest" is second generation Rwandan.

Brace yourself............. but it's German mate, German. A genuine Sauerkraut Crock Pot. (No nasty Lead in the glaze apparently). The built in air lock on the rim is great. I need to make another batch soon actually, as we've almost run out of stock.

The Leeds thing, in the Harehills area, unrest rather than a full on riot, was an interesting one. It was Roma people kicking off, and Muslim people stepping in to diffuse things and clear up the mess. That's a tricky conundrum; do we classify Roma as Asian to fit the narrative here? (It wouldn't be that far fetched actually). ‘We got failed by the police’: how veterans of Leeds riots stepped in to defuse disorder | Leeds | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM A group of Muslim men put themselves in danger to calm unrest in Harehills over children being taken into care

The largest faith in Rwanda is Catholicism, but there have been significant changes in the nation's religious demographics since the genocide, with many conversions to evangelical Christianity, and, to a lesser degree, Islam.[286] According to the 2012 census, Catholic Christians represented 43.7% of the population, Protestants (excluding Seventh-day Adventists) 37.7%, Seventh-day Adventists 11.8%, and Muslims 2.0%; 0.2% claimed no religious beliefs and 1.3% did not state a religion.[287] Traditional religion, despite officially being followed by only 0.1% of the population, retains an influence. Many Rwandans view the Christian God as synonymous with the traditional Rwandan God Imana.[288]

Bud, in terms of pure volume of work, anyone is an observer in comparison to you! 🤷‍♂️ If you're not arguing, then what have you been doing on here for the last 10, 20 pages or whatever it is now? If instead, you've just been saying the same thing over and over, what's the point? 🤷‍♂️ From what I've seen everyone is saying that riots or rioting should be policed equally and fairly without prejudice regardless of race, religion or political affiliation. The scum bags smashing and attacking everything and everyone should be locked up for a long long time. Actually no, hard manual labour would be a far more effective punishment. Our prison system is fcked anyway, certainly no room for the hundreds or maybe thousands that will hopefully be sentenced eventually. Though our legal system is also fcked so that won't happen any time soon unfortunately. Anyway, rather than pointing out one thing that won't fix the issue, what would help matters in your opinion ve? I think that it's got to be worth pushing back against the lies and misinformation that's being spread online surely. Some people fall for it far too easily, as you've personally experienced ve. All this propagation of hatred and division within society is helping no-one. "Othering" groups within society is at the start of a very ugly path.

This is what I don't get Dave; you're all saying the same thing, that riots or rioting should be policed equally and fairly without prejudice regardless of race, religion or political affiliation. Everyone is in agreement, so what are you constantly arguing about? How do you, Dave, think we should calm the situation down right now, and hopefully resolve it ultimately? It's got to be worth pushing back against the lies and misinformation that's being spread online surely. All this propagation of hatred and division within society is helping no-one. Riots in the UK: online propagandists know how to work their audiences – this is what we are missing THECONVERSATION.COM Instead of focusing on the people sending out the propaganda, we should turn our attention to those who receive it.

Nothing fancy this time, just stewed them up to be eaten in the winter with yoghurt or custard. These have been remarkablly maggot free. In all that lot that we stoned prior to bottling there was not one with any maggots in. A handful starting to go rotten/overripe/mouldy but that was it.

Anyone else heartily bored of this iteration of the Johnsond show? Rather than endless trying and failing to compare apples to oranges, we ought to change tack slightly and discuss a more constructive approach to the situation: like how do we best tackle the problem. Here's a starter for ten. Riots in the UK: online propagandists know how to work their audiences – this is what we are missing THECONVERSATION.COM Instead of focusing on the people sending out the propaganda, we should turn our attention to those who receive it.

Me and the boy picked some plums yesterday. Amazing how many you can get in about 15 minutes from quite a small tree, with plenty eaten along the way.

This is largely based on personal experience, and of those around me, but I think 14 is a good age to start part-time work. Even better if it's manual/constructive/skilled work. I guess retail or service work is better than nothing but still. I had a couple of part-time jobs, in holidays and on Saturdays, from 14 - 18. I believe the work and renumeration taught me a lot. The values of hard physical work, of learning manual skills, of financial saving rather than borrowing, of diligence.... One job was making wooden jigsaws, the other was general building work, mainly masonry and landscaping. My brother worked on a local farm, I joined him at haymaking time. We, and some other local lads, also did pheasant beating for a few years during the season. (Fond memories of being given a pint of shandy with lunch at the pub, and then driven round country lanes and across fields at speed in the back of an open back Hilux! Exhilarating stuff.) I'll be encouraging my son to follow a similar course.

That looks good. What's brien sauce?

There's no point in trying to reason with meathead racist scum. Anyone that defends and supports the burning of libraries and attacks on innocent hardworking christian folk, just trying to get on in life, is too far gone. Let's just hope the law is applied equally, regardless of race, religion or political affiliation. Based on the precident of the JSO sentencing, they out to get what, 20, 30 years? For attacking and injuring police, other emergency services workers and innocent bystanders, (of the "wrong" colour). We should just think ourselves lucky, as I think the majority of us on here are white males. I don't imagine a third generation Hindu doctor will be sleeping that easily tonight.

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With added protein.....

I've always worn chin straps. Never even considered not doing so as they're not at all UNcomfortable. They help a lot to keep the helmet secure so win win in my eyes.

I think we need a couple of drinks on board already before we can tackle fundamental questions like that. I'm sure there is an official definition somewhere, but I don't know it. It's pretty arbitrary in practice obviously. I saw a 40% drink recently, it called itself a Beer for heavens sake.

Exactly what I was thinking earlier. All the meatheads waving foreign flags around. The irony of it. I might set up a side hustle;- importing Union Jack's and St. George's flags. There's money to be made as they must be selling like hot cakes at the moment.

I think I probably followed a recipe. Though I've a vague memory of it being a ginger beer recipe but I decided to morph it into wine part way through. I'll have a dig around tomorrow for ya.

You're speaking in riddles, for me at least. What Riddles?

Homemade ginger wine from a couple years ago. Look at the clarity. It's quite dry with a pleasing heat on the palate, and buzz on the head!

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