Jason James Gairn

Yes. Indeed. it's a weird communication technique. Cheers to our bosses!

I think what's important is that we disagree less than was initially evident. I'm not the lazy unionised radical and your not the pit boss sending kids to their deaths. I guess, I expect very high standards from everyone including myself. consequently the point at which I thank people is higher than maybe it could be. Does that make sense?

It's subtle for sure. If I was an employer, the sole reason I would buy a new piece of kit would be profit. that would be my job. As an irritant employee, I would expect nothing different either. I should not feel it necessary to thank my boss for increasing the efficiency of the company, that's his job. to work as hard as I can is my job. No thanks required. I get a wage for my efforts and he gets profits. This is normal for a viable business. So yes the only reason to buy new kit that gets my respect is to increase profit. It's true that the perceived loss leaders of staff welfare can have a dramatic effect on profit. This is usually only embraced by progressive employers. I don't want to work for a flaky boss, I want efficient and effective management. I should not have to thank them for simply doing their job properly. I thank them for letting me take the van home at the weekend or buying around in the pub. This is how it should be. Everyone knows that we'd all break our balls for a good boss. we've all done it. A bad boss deserves nothing but derision. Am I wrong thinking this is an acceptable point of view? The subtlety is very important.

Er, did you read my last post about how i get on with my boss etc. I said what I mean and mean what I say. dont add or take away from that. Scuse me for simplicity, but I'm quite simple myself. The above quote of yours is unfair, as it does not represent my point of view. at all. I'm a two way street man too.

It's the sense of humour thing. I sleep in a hammock. To avoid wrong sides I levitate virtically.

I'm both, and neither. But really i think it's unrealistic to suggest an employers priority is not to his profit. profit for him to spend. I am good friends with my employer and he's a good man. But neither of us are under any delusion that he's running a charity. Any new kit is great, but the only viable reason for new kit is to primarily increase profit. I think this is actually ok. Not complaining about that situation, that's business. But i think it damaging to thank people for the symptoms of selfish acts even when they seem altruistic. I think a healthy symbiotic relationship between employer and employee is normal, a default setting if you like. Anything less should be complained about and anything more requires thanks.

Maybe I should look to America for my Olfactory conspiracy. Gosh the plot widens!!

I bet your tutor looked a part.

Personally, I'm in a fully functioning marriage of 15 years. Neither of us would use the word `boss'. On the initial post, did your boss buy this stuff for you or for himself? Ultimately the efficiency of the company has a direct result on the location of his next holiday surely? Sorry to be so cynical in the face of so much brown nosing, sorry praise.

I'll just mix that in. Thanks Jamie.

Indeed sweat is virtually odorless. But the bacteria that essentially eat it and excrete BO are on the job all the time. BO can occur within mins, certainly within a few hours in people working hard. As we all do, I repeat what I have researched mixed with experience as opinion. I'm open to read anything that says BO doesn't occur for 24 hours and adapt my opinion. Steve is there a tongue in cheek smiley?

I'm only at the `I reckon' stage of the theory. later after some number crunching, i hope to prove that next to the overseas conflicts, deodorant companies are responsible for significant if not major `drain effects' on the national economy. Sure is really owned by Al-Qaeda.

BO on the way home is the smell of effort/profit. As such I would expect everyone to smell like vagrants. Deodorant is for the weekends as it stops the cooling efficiency of the human body.Reducing work efficiency and therefore profit, times this small effect by the number of manual workers in the UK and you can see why foreign countries push this product so hard in the country. BO on the way to the job is vulgar. By the way A high meat diet makes sweat smell worse. Veggies just fart like cows.

Good call chap. Where did you get one for £30 or is that the RRP?

Hey MisterTee, I think you are very active in the mountains, so it makes sense to keep your better kit for when it can save your life. I don't get into the mountains much really compared to you, so I wear my £160 soft shell, merino wool base layer and bridgedale socks to work. After all the requirements for both activities are the same. I would encourage everyone to have the best kit (layering system) you can afford (to lose). The Army goretex jackets suggested are great if your in a bramble thicket or in a species that would normally penetrate the goretex layer of more expensive kit. I have a few jackets for different activities. Those wax jackets are good to burn.

Pragmatically, it only matters in the great scheme of things if its a health and safety risk. Everything else is an irrational fear of the untidy; common amongst doormen and aunties. Not to be pandered to. IMO. obviously. The chainsaw trouser problem at shows is worse, as it indicates people are behaving based on habit rather than decision making ability. Anyone wearing them when it's not necessary (whatever that means) is quite obviously a moron. And i mean that without insult. I mean the dictionary definition.NIMO

I have memories of trying to get longer lengths into the opening.

Haha ha ha.Doing time for murder.

MisterTee, in your avatar, you look like your about to give someone a smack.

It's a gravity fed chipper!! I used a dosko for a while. Usually machines work for and with you, but this works against you. Horrible. P'haps I've been spoilt with Bandits for too long.

I can neither confirm or deny my where abouts in this picture. But it's a new look. I'm on the left. The other dude is Achmed the finger.

I love a good mash up. Soul wax are pretty good at it too.

There's a few Steve Bell books about too. Saturday Garidian for me. I like Gary Larson better. But then I have simple tastes.

All good Steve. Seeing who's been on our profile page might lead to paranoid suspicions though. All part of the transparency I guess. I quite like the simple font on the arbtalk header and the grad on the buttons.

Is he the best. He looks like the best. Has anyone else on arbtalk tried to do this themselves?