Rob D

It won't make a difference because 1) we'll call the bar length as to what works ie. 12" for a Stihl MS201T and 12" for a Husky 12" T540XP will be called 12" - and both will take 44 drive links of 3/8 lo pro BUT the bars will likely be different lengths. They will still be called 12" and they will still take 44 drive links. It doesn't really matter if the cutting lengths are slightly different the main thing is it makes sense numerically.

Yep correct - and I was like that when on the tools - so I've sort of given up on the education route as people just aren't interested in it [and I don't blame it is exceedingly dull stuff]. So the new range will make it as simple as possible to where you will only need to know what saw it is you have and the length bar you want - and that's it.

Glad you like it Yep there is def something coming, a few new developments really - that will aim to simplify things and also synchronise across the whole bars eco system eg. a 12" lo pro bar that you would put on a Stihl 201T, Husky 540XP, Echo 361 - will all be set to 44 drive links of 3/8 lo pro .050 Also to note we'll be looking at tidying up other areas ie. bars will all have a number of drive links that give an equal number of cutters on both left and right - so 44 drive links = 22 cutters = 11 on each side. No breaks or a left cutter followed by another left cutter [which is only a minor thing but if you can avoid it why not]. As well as that we also have some chains I'll likely get people to have a go with on a basis of - buy this chain - write up a post on here - get 50% refunded [50% refunded irrespective of if feedback is positive or negative].

Yep but what ever they do - if the drive link count is the same - why not for ease just call it the same length.

'Why is this bar labelled as a 24" bar when I wanted a 25" bar - but then I noticed that the drive link count is the same so it doesn't make sense?' Or 'I got a 36" Stihl bar here but the Husky 36" bar doesn't take quite the same chain - why is that if they are the same length? It's annoying as now I need two lengths of chain' Or 'On your website it has a 16" bar that has 56 drive links, and another 16" bar that has 58 drive links - must be a typo!?' It doesn't make sense and the reason is there is no good reason for it. Often those good old manufacturers seem to take pleasure in their product standing out from the crowd - not through being innovative, ground breaking or better - but by being different enough so that it doesn't look like they are copying anyone else. Or maybe it's good old fashioned ignorance - or maybe they simply aren't bothered... whatever - there is no good reason for it that I can work out. Both the Stihl 25" bar and the Husky 24" bar take 3/8 chain at 84 drive links. Now would it not have been easier if they were both labelled 24" or both 25"? Either one would work. Lesson - the length as stated by the manufacturer will always be a GUIDE - not an exact. 24" is 24" - an exact measurement - but not when it comes to a chainsaw guide bar. in some ways it works better as 24" is better than 24.35" but it would be better if everyone agreed to a set amount of measurements. So in the above example - the bar length is nominated as 25" and 24" however the drive link is the same. But it gets worse - in this example the bar length is the same but the drive link count is different! And this is for the same saw... So conclusion is - don't worry too much about it - if the bar you bought is an inch or two within what you wanted good enough... or if you want a more exact way to measure compare the drive link counts. One benefit of this mis matched motley of measuring is the time is ripe for a brand new range of guidebars that looks to synchronize everything. But I've no idea who would be thinking of bringing out a range like this in the near future say around April/May 2022 🙄

Sorry to hear about the injury - one door closes - another opens... Truck looks fantastic - I'm not even on the tools and I want it 😅 may keep an eye on the auction. Love the tool storage as well - bob on!

It's a Sugi bar so it's a harder bar - the Oregon bars you'd get away with as it would wear a channel out like it seems to on the other bar he had..

Same thread but different issue - I have a customer who is getting a heat build up at the mount - to me it seems like the mount of the processor is pinching the bar. It had also done it on his other bar - anything that looks odd about it? The chain is coming out the bar and a hot spot formed right at that point.

Some big old boards there - glad the job went well 😀

Very difficult to measure but we have likely taken far more from countries like Africa than we have ever given. But I don't have all the facts... Likening people to rats though? Seriously? I support projects in Africa that provide clean drinking water - I think it's every child's birth right as a minimum to have clean water to drink as they grow up. What you have written above is madness mate.

Yep but I notice that the de population idea usually applies to other people - ie I don't see many people topping themselves [in a carbon neutral way of course] in order to reduce strain on resources.

Yep I really feel the same way - there was a fairly big protest yesterday near us shouting 'No Oil, No Gas, Keep the Carbon in the Ground'. And my thought was 'how am I going to get to work? and have they thought how they were going to get to work? drop the kids to school?'. I am part of the problem - we all are. But I don't have any answers. I don't think there are any clear answers right now.

Better than nowt I guess!

Just another way to push their own agendas. Bit off putting for me is the World Economic Forum is punting it at the top of their website so clearly it works in with whatever they are up to.. I mean the whole thing is just bollocks isn't it...? I'm not even interested enough to find out.

As lovely as wood is the hardest thing is to sell it - so I reckon if you can sell it then sell it - there's plenty more out there that needs milling.

Looks good - no ring shake - prob some very nice timber in there

A brilliant machine at a crazy price. Was so looking forward to this as pretty sure it can work off a 12v battery which in my dreams meant you could go to a milling job and have it sharpening a chain while you are still working [then swap over every 4 or 5 planks]. Doing the depth gauges as well is magic. The person who came up with the above 'key data' should find a job in politics!

It is a goer but I reckon not worth the faff - prob is better to buy the 28" bar and reel of chain and keeps life a lot simpler.

Just an idea but could you bend and encourage the end branches to thread their way through what will be left of it? I did that once on a shorter hedge - looked a mess for 2-3 years but after that it was ok... sort of!

You should be able to just use this adapter here to make the mounting studs fit the 14mm slot Bar Adapter Turns D025 12mm Medium Stihl Studs to 14mm A031 WWW.CHAINSAWBARS.CO.UK Use this adapter plate in order to fit 14mm Large Stihl type bars to the mid size Stihl mounting studs which are 12mm. as well as changing the drive rim over to 404 on the MS661 [you'll have to remember to do this if you change back and forward]

Ah ok and what's the e-mail of that [associated with the business] - you can PM me if needs be..

No prob - have you ordered off us before?

Cheers - yep hasn't it just!

Thanks for the feedback - also it's the 10 year anniversary of Chainsawbars come December - so there may be something in it for the regulars

It often crops up - can you do me a deal? - if you're a regular customer yes - no if you're not. And this is auto applied. A few years ago we really wanted to move away from the 'successful' model that large businesses seem to use which is 1) offer the world to new customers in order to get them to come on board 2) operate a milking system for regular, loyal customers who quietly provide the backbone of your turnover but don't ask much for doing so... Also if we did a deal when folks contacted us then we're making a rod for our own backs as well as undermining said loyal customers ie. if you called and got a deal once you'll call to get a deal next time. And if you didn't get a deal next time then you'd be annoyed. So I reckon the existing system works pretty well [feel free to comment] as it's simple and does what it's supposed to.