Making the news today....

[TIMON]

Maybe it really is too late to turn the tide..... everyone's already drunk the cool aid [emoji33]

 

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10208/europe-afghanistan

 

 

Timon

 

"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep in order to gain what he cannot lose"

[Mark J]

This probably isn't the thread for pointing out that there's over 300 Palestian CHILDREN in Israeli jails.

 

Back on track:

 

It appears all those books with cavemen hunting mammoths to extinction were a load of dribble.

 

History: Ancient stone carvings confirm how comet struck Earth in 10,950BC, sparking the rise of civilisations

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

This probably isn't the thread for pointing out that there's over 300 Palestian CHILDREN in Israeli jails.

 

 

 

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Doubtless just randomly captured and incarcerated by the evil Zionist....

 

Or perhaps, just maybe, an Israeli jail is safer than being co-opted into the child army of militant Islam???

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict

[matelot]

This probably isn't the thread for pointing out that there's over 300 Palestian CHILDREN in Israeli jails.

 

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Over the last few years the amount of terrorism in Europe has went through the roof. If Israel thinks these "CHILDREN" are a risk to security what do you expect them to do? Give them a pack of sweets and a hug and send them on their way?

[matelot]

I would imagine that the Palestinians consider Israel to be not much better than the Nazis, so I presume you support their fight?

 

The entire Middle East used to be Jewish until the Jews was slaughtered by a certain religion.

 

There's only one Jewish country and fifty islamic ones. Tbh, it seems reasonable that the Jews get their own country.

[skyhuck]

The entire Middle East used to be Jewish until the Jews was slaughtered by a certain religion.

 

There's only one Jewish country and fifty islamic ones. Tbh, it seems reasonable that the Jews get their own country.

 

Did Hitler not use similar arguments about historic borders to "reunite" Austria with Germany? Taking land by force and occupying it hardly seems fair to me?

 

How far back do we go when deciding what land belongs to whom?

 

My point is that Timon justifying violence in the name of religion is a very dodgy argument, IMO and very, very subjective.

[TIMON]

Did Hitler not use similar arguments about historic borders to "reunite" Austria with Germany? Taking land by force and occupying it hardly seems fair to me?

 

 

 

How far back do we go when deciding what land belongs to whom?

 

 

 

My point is that Timon justifying violence in the name of religion is a very dodgy argument, IMO and very, very subjective.

 

 

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Bonhoeffer was a man of peace but came to realise that he had to stand up to the evil of Hitler and the nazis. He wasn't using violence to promote his own religious beliefs.

 

 

Timon

 

"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep in order to gain what he cannot lose"

[matelot]

How far back do we go when deciding what land belongs to whom?

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The Jews have been in Israel since 1947. I doubt many Palestinains are alive from 1947...

 

My point is that Timon justifying violence in the name of religion is a very dodgy argument, IMO and very, very subjective.

 

I'd agree with that. However it's the Religion of Peace that seem keen on using their religion to justify killing kafir. I can't think of any recent incidents of Christians killing people in the name of their religion?

[matelot]

Tbh, I dont know why people are so keen to criticise Israel. The likes of Saudi deserves more criticism imho.

 

Ffs they don't let women drive, they stone people in public, they support Islamic State and they have official school books that describe jews and Christians as monkeys and pigs.

 

But yeah, let's all criticise the only democracy in the Middle East. The one place where gays and minorities aren't suffering constant harassment.

[Mark J]

 

I'd agree with that. However it's the Religion of Peace that seem keen on using their religion to justify killing kafir. I can't think of any recent incidents of Christians killing people in the name of their religion?

 

Trump considers himself to be a christian : Trump: I 'need God even more' after becoming president

 

"So yes, you realize these decisions are all so important. There's almost not a decision that you make when you're sitting in this position that isn't a really life-altering position. So God comes in even more so," Trump added.

 

He's been dropping bombs has he not?