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[sime42]

On 21/11/2025 at 23:08, Squaredy said:

If I get time tomorrow I will list some of the times in the last 20 years or so the BBC has been found guilty of institutional bias.  Of course that will probably be the fault of Ofcom.  The BBC are totally balanced and objective.

 

 

Not bias as such, but an interesting twist on the theme. This is a bad sign of the times. It looks like the BBC have been bullied into self-censorship this time. The not so insidious death of free speech again.

An interesting programme btw. The Reith Lectures are always good. I'd urge you to have a listen. 

 

 

Historian Rutger Bregman criticises BBC for removing Donald Trump line from Radio 4's Reith Lecture

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Rutger Bregman says he is "genuinely dismayed" after a line about the US president was edited out.

 

 

 

[Squaredy]

34 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

 

Not bias as such, but an interesting twist on the theme. This is a bad sign of the times. It looks like the BBC have been bullied into self-censorship this time. The not so insidious death of free speech again.

An interesting programme btw. The Reith Lectures are always good. I'd urge you to have a listen. 

 

 

Historian Rutger Bregman criticises BBC for removing Donald Trump line from Radio 4's Reith Lecture

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Rutger Bregman says he is "genuinely dismayed" after a line about the US president was edited out.

 

 

 

Thank you, I will listen.  Though I have heard from someone who attended the lecture and he hated it!  If it is just Trump bashing I have heard plenty of that from the BBC over the years.  Their presenters on the radio are all anti-Trump, even the many who I listen to on Times Radio (all ex BBC) are always highly partisan when it comes to Trump.
 

I guess if the BBC removed a line they must have realised it could be libellous.  In which case that is what they should do.  As long as they stick to reporting things accurately they have nothing to fear

[sime42]

12 minutes ago, Squaredy said:

Thank you, I will listen.  Though I have heard from someone who attended the lecture and he hated it!  If it is just Trump bashing I have heard plenty of that from the BBC over the years.  Their presenters on the radio are all anti-Trump, even the many who I listen to on Times Radio (all ex BBC) are always highly partisan when it comes to Trump.
 

I guess if the BBC removed a line they must have realised it could be libellous.  In which case that is what they should do.  As long as they stick to reporting things accurately they have nothing to fear

 

To be fair it was far from just Trump bashing. He didn't get much more than a mention in the hour long session. He, Bregman, was equally as scathing of the Left as he was of the Right really. He has no allegiance to the BBC as far as I know. 

 

The sensored claim was that Trump was “the most openly corrupt president in American history”.  Which isn't that controversial actually. The man himself doesn't exactly make much attempt to conceal his dealings. 

Bregman seems like a very well informed and knowledgeable guy, I'm sure he didn't write those words without a good deal of research leading to credible citations and evidence. 

 

The point here is that the BBC, our public broadcaster, is running scared from the bullying tactics of another country's president. That means he has influence over them. To me, that isn't a good state of affairs. I thought more people might be alarmed by this, as there's been a lot of noise about The Death of Free Speech recently. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Squaredy]

30 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

To be fair it was far from just Trump bashing. He didn't get much more than a mention in the hour long session. He, Bregman, was equally as scathing of the Left as he was of the Right really. He has no allegiance to the BBC as far as I know. 

 

The sensored claim was that Trump was “the most openly corrupt president in American history”.  Which isn't that controversial actually. The man himself doesn't exactly make much attempt to conceal his dealings. 

Bregman seems like a very well informed and knowledgeable guy, I'm sure he didn't write those words without a good deal of research leading to credible citations and evidence. 

 

The point here is that the BBC, our public broadcaster, is running scared from the bullying tactics of another country's president. That means he has influence over them. To me, that isn't a good state of affairs. I thought more people might be alarmed by this, as there's been a lot of noise about The Death of Free Speech recently. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mmmm interesting.  I think it is clear why they removed that line.  It is nonsense.

I guess you don’t know about Nixon and watergate.  Or indeed Clinton. Not to mention many moons ago Harding.

 

Trump has been accused of various things, but so far not much has stuck.

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

The sensored claim was that Trump was “the most openly corrupt president in American history”. 

the worst bit for me was Trump coin. 

[AHPP]

The world at the moment is surely just the premise of Rat Race (2001 film), where bored rich men see how far they can push it before everyone else realises how ridiculous it is. 

 

 

[Mesterh]

29 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

the worst bit for me was Trump coin. 

So you didnt buy one of his bibles or a bottle of aftershave then?

 

Imagine the never ending of posts if Starmer/Boris or any other PM was pushing and selling the shit that Trump is.

 

[AHPP]

 

Oh fck off, you chancing bint. 

[sime42]

21 hours ago, Mesterh said:

So you didnt buy one of his bibles or a bottle of aftershave then?

 

Imagine the never ending of posts if Starmer/Boris or any other PM was pushing and selling the shit that Trump is.

 

 

 

 

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[sime42]

22 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

the worst bit for me was Trump coin. 

 

Why? I don't know much about that.

Meme-coin?