Making the news today....

[Steven P]

Last time it was this high it took about 20 years to reduce it to a more sensible level.

[Mark J]

Israel-Hamas war: UK could be complicit in Gaza war crimes, Tory MP warns

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Crispin Blunt, who is co-director of a pro-Palestinian group, told Sky News he is not sure his colleagues in Westminster are aware of the "legal peril they are in". He spoke as Israel faces...

 

[scbk]

Winters here now. Seen the first gritter of the season this afternoon (and he was actively spreading salt)

[Mark J]

 

[Big J]

On 15/10/2023 at 01:02, Mark J said:

 

 

And that is fundamentally the root of the situation in the middle east. The Israelis cannot be surprised that Hamas acted without humanity (and I absolutely condemn Hamas' actions) when the Israelis have been systematically stripping the Palestinians of that very humanity for 75 years.

[difflock]

11 hours ago, Big J said:

 

And that is fundamentally the root of the situation in the middle east. The Israelis cannot be surprised that Hamas acted without humanity (and I absolutely condemn Hamas' actions) when the Israelis have been systematically stripping the Palestinians of that very humanity for 75 years.

I most very  strongly disagree with that 2nd last line of yours "J". 

Tough.

[Big J]

8 hours ago, difflock said:

I most very  strongly disagree with that 2nd last line of yours "J". 

Tough.

 

How so? 

 

The Israelis have  (since Israel's formation) been incrementally and systematically taking the Palestinians land and rights away from them. There are half a million Jewish settlers in the West Bank alone, in direct contravention of international law. As many have put it, it is an apartheid. 

 

In situations with such appalling human rights violations (spanning three generations now), it can hardly come as a surprise that extremism festers. Never to condone heinous acts on either side, it must be understood that the Palestinians have precious little power in this situation. Gaza is an open prison and it's residents treated without any respect whatsoever.

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by Big J

[Big J]

@Whoppa Choppa

You're a recent addition to the forum, and your contributions seem to be largely limited to mocking and ridicule. If you have something that you'd like to add to the discussion, then by all means, please do.

 

If you have nothing constructive to say and feel that the masacre of civilians is a laughing matter, then kindly f**k the hell off. 

[sime42]

It sure looks like Israel is carrying out collective punishment, despite assurances to the contrary. Not sure how things like this can be anything else but.

 

'Hundreds of people killed in Israeli strike on a hospital in Gaza with more trapped under the rubble', Hamas claims - as the Israeli military says it is investigating incident | Daily Mail Online

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Photographs out of Gaza showed fire engulfing the hospital halls, shattered glass and body parts scattered across the area...

 

A sure fire way to fast track recruitment of the next generation of jihadi fighters, not to mention the obvious; untold suffering to innocent people. Looks like there'll never be an end to this horrible mess.

 

[Mike Hill]

31 minutes ago, sime42 said:

It sure looks like Israel is carrying out collective punishment, despite assurances to the contrary. Not sure how things like this can be anything else but.

 

'Hundreds of people killed in Israeli strike on a hospital in Gaza with more trapped under the rubble', Hamas claims - as the Israeli military says it is investigating incident | Daily Mail Online

WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK

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Photographs out of Gaza showed fire engulfing the hospital halls, shattered glass and body parts scattered across the area...

 

A sure fire way to fast track recruitment of the next generation of jihadi fighters, not to mention the obvious; untold suffering to innocent people. Looks like there'll never be an end to this horrible mess.

 

 

Hamas HQ is under the hospital,they have cells there where they torture captives . All collateral damage is propaganda to Hamas the leaders of which are likely in the south now anyhow.

 

There is some truly disturbing footage and reports out there on what Hamas did during their latest terror attack.

 

Personally I hope Israel turn the Gaza strip into a giant car park.As does the rest of the civilised world who live without their heads up their arses.