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[Welshfred]

12 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

Because being far Left is as bad as being far Right. It’s simply not a case of Left is good therefore more Left is great, history shows this. Since most governments these days are dangerous close to far Left a swing to the Right would be a far better balance and address the issues of why many countries feel the need for a more Right leaning government. 

 

So lean right for the sake of global balance? Almost seems you're making the case for centricism but I'm not sure that's what you intended.

But seriously, I am interested to know which governments could be considered close to far left and really interested to know what issues are pushing /pulling people towards the (far) right. I am nonplussed as to the benefits to the people of right wing government...

[Johnsond]

25 minutes ago, Welshfred said:

 

So lean right for the sake of global balance? Almost seems you're making the case for centricism but I'm not sure that's what you intended.

But seriously, I am interested to know which governments could be considered close to far left and really interested to know what issues are pushing /pulling people towards the (far) right. I am nonplussed as to the benefits to the people of right wing government...

The same could be said of left leaning governments,🤷‍♂️all that will ensue for anyone attempting to answer your questions is an utterly endless to and fro of of political opinions. Absolutely pointless, some of us like to fend for ourselves with minimal state intervention some like the whole nanny state tell me what to do make me safe look after me type of government it’s as simple as that for me. 

[Mike Hill]

13 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

The same could be said of left leaning governments,🤷‍♂️all that will ensue for anyone attempting to answer your questions is an utterly endless to and fro of of political opinions. Absolutely pointless, some of us like to fend for ourselves with minimal state intervention some like the whole nanny state tell me what to do make me safe look after me type of government it’s as simple as that for me. 

Would you consider yourself to be in the later camp?

 

 

[Johnsond]

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[Welshfred]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

,🤷‍♂️fend for ourselves with minimal state  intervention 

 

Sounds more like anarchism than fascism...

[Johnsond]

2 minutes ago, Welshfred said:

 

Sounds more like anarchism than fascism...

Anarchism or Fascism 😂😂😂😂

No just a bit of common sense, the right values and a bit of pride in being able to support your family etc. 
Well done for managing to get the “ fascism” word in so quickly. 

[Welshfred]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

🤷‍♂️ tell me what to do make me safe look after me type of government 

 

Individuals can't manage countries very well, that's the role of government surely? A government should govern the country as a whole, thinking long term, spending long term, planning for the future. That means some rules and some guidance for the individuals to follow, some of which will of course be unpopular with some, you can't please everyone all the time... But right wing government still has rules, sometimes quite strict ones...

[Johnsond]

1 minute ago, Welshfred said:

 

Individuals can't manage countries very well, that's the role of government surely? A government should govern the country as a whole, thinking long term, spending long term, planning for the future. That means some rules and some guidance for the individuals to follow, some of which will of course be unpopular with some, you can't please everyone all the time... But right wing government still has rules, sometimes quite strict ones...

Absolutely but let’s keep it minimal as I said in the initial reply. 

[Steven P]

awww, you moved on too quick from renewable energy and now on to nanny states. Just when I had been reading that China despite building coal power stations also....

- Produces 30% of its electricity from renewable resources (the UK is about 40%, more than the US, but not as much as Germanys 50%... nordstream anyone?)

- Uses less electricity per head of population than the UK so has a massive demand for electricity generation (and far less than the US, or Canada - I use the US as a beacon to the world with their Holywood influence)

- Also has a massive population, in 60 years has required 6 times more electricity per person as the country industrialises and modernises. This is a lot of electricity generation needed. Nuclear won't cut it with the lead times on a new power station, they want power now, not 20 years time.

 

As a nation we cannot say "Don't" because then a billion migrants will be coming to the bright electrical lights of the west. What we can do is use our (post brexit dwindling) influence on the world to lead by example. Africa is even further behind their electrification and will no doubt go down the fossil fuels route before switching to renewable energies.

 

Got to look at the world, do the reading, look at the facts, the numbers, what will happen if we say 'do this' or 'don't do this'. It all works together as a glorious whole thing, rather than getting angry about 1 headline that pushes a political narrative. Noting that the UK government is relaxing the 'de-facto' ban on onshore wind turbines (todays press word of the day). This is a good thing.

 

 

 

 

Right, Nanny state.... I'll tick renewable energy off my list.

[Johnsond]

8 hours ago, Steven P said:

awww, you moved on too quick from renewable energy and now on to nanny states. Just when I had been reading that China despite building coal power stations also....

- Produces 30% of its electricity from renewable resources (the UK is about 40%, more than the US, but not as much as Germanys 50%... nordstream anyone?)

- Uses less electricity per head of population than the UK so has a massive demand for electricity generation (and far less than the US, or Canada - I use the US as a beacon to the world with their Holywood influence)

- Also has a massive population, in 60 years has required 6 times more electricity per person as the country industrialises and modernises. This is a lot of electricity generation needed. Nuclear won't cut it with the lead times on a new power station, they want power now, not 20 years time.

 

As a nation we cannot say "Don't" because then a billion migrants will be coming to the bright electrical lights of the west. What we can do is use our (post brexit dwindling) influence on the world to lead by example. Africa is even further behind their electrification and will no doubt go down the fossil fuels route before switching to renewable energies.

 

Got to look at the world, do the reading, look at the facts, the numbers, what will happen if we say 'do this' or 'don't do this'. It all works together as a glorious whole thing, rather than getting angry about 1 headline that pushes a political narrative. Noting that the UK government is relaxing the 'de-facto' ban on onshore wind turbines (todays press word of the day). This is a good thing.

 

 

 

 

Right, Nanny state.... I'll tick renewable energy off my list.