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[Steven P]

en-suites which to be fair are unnecessary add to the footprint of the house, which adds to the environmental impact.

 

Not sure I want to piss in a cupboard in the bed room but that is just me.

 

Referring to the report in question, the more we pave over near rivers, the more rain washes straight in without soaking through the soil. A contributing factor to flooding but also washing any pollutants straight off the property and into the watercourse, for example grass feeds and weed killers, but also dog and cat poo, which the builders had to account for in the past. You'll probably say that this is a small factor but,,, every little helps and with the manifesto target of 300,000 new homes a year (see link below) that is a lot of little bits of pollution.

 

Thought that was at least fairly clear,

 

 

New homes: What's happened to the government's housebuilding target?

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Michael Gove failed to commit to the government's new-homes target, so what's happening to it?

 

[5thelement]

7 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

Stating that the population is supposedly going to decrease within the next 20-30 years does in no way explain the housing shortage we are experiencing today. 

 

Seventeen thousand illegal immigrants have crossed the channel in boats this year so far. That's just illegal's crossing by boat, its not including the other illegal's entering the UK nor those who are legal migrants. Of these 17,000 illegal's the vast majority are working/fighting age men. Once these men have been processed and no longer live in Hotels they will be homed. They will not be homed in a commune, they will be given a house or a flat. They will then be allowed, or even if they are not allowed they will bring their families or extended families with them. But even if they dont thats 17,000 less homes for the British population, this year alone. The year is not even over yet. Since records began in 2018 100,000 illegal's have crossed the channel in boats and very few have been deported. Again, this is not including genuine migrants entering the UK  by legal means who needed homed nor the illegal's entering the UK by other means. 

 

To not lay the blame at mass migration being the leading driver in lack of homes for the British public is simply burying your head in the sand and ignoring reality. 

 

But yeh, the real issue is when Wimpy builds houses with an en suite for the people who can actually afford to pay for that house who undoubtedly will be funding the housing for those who are flooding over our boarders. Semantics my arse!

Should have voted for Brexit. 
Regain our Borders. 😂

[trigger_andy]

Just now, 5thelement said:

Should have voted for Brexit. 
Regain our Borders. 😂

What does Brexit have to do with economic migrants illegally flooding over the Chanel in small boats?
 

Saying that Brexit has seen a significant amount of Eastern Europeans return home. A case in point has seen a shortage of lorry drivers due to these people leaving and a serious increase in the wages British lorry drivers could command. As it should be.    

[Steven P]

Small boats in the channel before Brexit: 

Small Boats in the channel after Brexit:

You do the reading, it might blow your mind....

A thriving industry now, a real tory success story that.

[trigger_andy]

8 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Small boats in the channel before Brexit: 

Small Boats in the channel after Brexit:

You do the reading, it might blow your mind....

A thriving industry now, a real tory success story that.

So we agree, it has nothing to do with Brexit? 

[trigger_andy]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

en-suites which to be fair are unnecessary add to the footprint of the house, which adds to the environmental impact.

Might be unnecessary but so what? Where do you draw the line at whats necessary in life? We could spend days whittling down what we use/consume on a daily basis and Im quite confident an en suite would be considered low impact compared to most of our conveniences. Its such a pointless and ridiculous thing to highlight.

 

2 hours ago, Steven P said:

Not sure I want to piss in a cupboard in the bed room but that is just me.

You're not sure if you want to piss in a cupboard? As in you've not made your mind up yet? I bet you wear your shoes indoors as well. 

 

2 hours ago, Steven P said:

Referring to the report in question, the more we pave over near rivers, the more rain washes straight in without soaking through the soil. A contributing factor to flooding but also washing any pollutants straight off the property and into the watercourse, for example grass feeds and weed killers, but also dog and cat poo, which the builders had to account for in the past. You'll probably say that this is a small factor but,,, every little helps and with the manifesto target of 300,000 new homes a year (see link below) that is a lot of little bits of pollution.

Im not in favour of building more and more houses though. If we're going to take environmental issues seriously we need to vastly reduce our population on this small island of ours. Thats by far the bigger picture than worrying about the supposed impact a few extra square meters an en suit has. Not even the die hard climate change lunatics have a hard -on for en suits.   

[Mike Hill]

I read that there will be 600,000 legal migrants into the UK this year.

 

Which is funny since the UK colonized half the globe and now the globe in colonizing the UK.

 

Add to that the 5000000 unemployed,its all going a bit pear shaped in Blighty it seems.

[doobin]

People who want to allow all migration because 'open borders dahling' and suggest that we build yet more high density flats to accomodate this disgust me. They invariably live somewhere much nicer, and never cheek by jowel with the recent arrivals.

 

Champagne socialists. Fk em. This country needs a government that will prioritise quality of life above the flawed metric of GDP.

 

'We' (as in the county / policy setters) only want all these immigrants to keep the price of labour low so they can keep buying cheap goods and services and pretending they are rich because their house is now Xhundred thousand.

[Big J]

UK net migration in 2022 was just over 600,000. 

 

Immigrants having crossed the channel illegally in 2022 numbered 46,000.

 

They are not the source of any housing crisis nor even a significant minority of immigrants who make the UK their home.

 

All this after the Tories gave the UK back their ability to "control their borders" 😄

[trigger_andy]

25 minutes ago, Big J said:

UK net migration in 2022 was just over 600,000. 

How on earth can we continue to build houses and infrastructure at that rate though? Its impossible, we're an island and an over populated one at that. Even if net migration was zero it would take years to fix the housing crisis we have today. Importing 650,000 annually is absolutely the single biggest source of the housing crisis, your very own figures confirm this.

 

One of the reasons you indicated you moved away from the UK was over crowding and how much you enjoy not seeing another soul on your daily bike rides. You also regularly moan about the Rabbit Hutch Housing here in the UK and at the same time you refuse to acknowledge that a net migration of over 600,000 a year is not a significant issue in the Housing Crisis. Its mind boggling.

 

25 minutes ago, Big J said:

Immigrants having crossed the channel illegally in 2022 numbered 46,000

That's just the tip of the iceberg though, the vast majority of these illegal's are working age men. If that bleeding heart lefty who claimed earlier in this thread that 90% of them get legal status then they'll simply bring their families over and significantly swell that number. Even if we ignore the 600,000 net legals coming over we're still having to build over 40,000 just to house illegal's each year. Its a massive undertaking that will solely be placed on the taxpayer. 

 

Its little wonder you left the UK, and you sure moaned and complained about it for long enough before you finally did so, but to sit there in your relative remote piece of Swedish paradise and claim mass migration is not a serious issue is laughable. 

Edited August 31, 2023 by trigger_andy