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[Johnsond]

42 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

I wonder if that is just a remote reader, like we have on water meters and unlike the cellphone sim based transmitters smart electricity meters use here.

 

I believe from what has been said on another forum that the French have less tolerance of homes drawing more than the amount of electricity the system allots for them and cuts off if it is exceeded at the consumer unit, requiring a visit to reset it.

 

Our system allow for diversity and should allow any house to draw 15kW but not if everyone does so at the same time. With electricity demand for car charging, heat pumps and electric cooking set to increase this is why having smart meters that can stagger these overnight loads will be necessary.

So who is that decides wether you are turned off or not ?? Bit of a worry  if you need your vehicle in the morning and you wanted to be warm too during a cold night !!!.

[openspaceman]

8 minutes ago, Macpherson said:

 

It's convenient, and to me convenience is the thin end of a very thin wedge, if you ask the question 'can I be switched of remotely' the answer is absolutely not... and to me that the means just the opposite, but I may be wrong🙄.

It can definitely be turned off remotely but I have not hear anyone it has happened to yet.

[openspaceman]

2 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

So who is that decides wether you are turned off or not ?? Bit of a worry  if you need your vehicle in the morning and you wanted to be warm too during a cold night !!!.

I have no idea who decides, it will probably be an AI algoritm, not so much to switch it off  but more to delay which households, on which phase, from the substation can start charging or heating. The aim is to spread the instantaneous load such that everyone gets the same time to charge or heat in the off peak period.

 

With wind, as at 19:45 26/12/22, providing half of UK electricity, 16GW worth, followed by nuclear from here and France doing 25% and gas gently providing 2.3GW  it may well be that the wind generators will need to be curtailed tonight when the demand drops and this unpredictability is the reason for wanting to shift loads to off peak periods. Plus of course the grid and distribution network has to cope too.

[Johnsond]

8 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

It can definitely be turned off remotely but I have not hear anyone it has happened to yet.

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Having a system where the state or anyone can shut you down in any way shape or form is not a great idea, Canada pre covid was viewed as a model democratic state. No one ever would have imagined the above happening. That’s not conspiracy Dempsey, Trudeau went through with it over vaccine mandates, a vaccine I’d say people are more wary of now than then as the information of its side effects keep coming out. 

[Mick Dempsey]

You guys heard of power cuts in the 70s? Ultimate state control of power.

Anything like water, power, phone or whatever is a service you pay for and can be withdrawn at any time.

Why are they pushing smart meters (to answer Trigger Andy’s question) it’s so they can reduce their biggest overhead..staff, not so they can feed their lizard babies more human flesh.

Same as why supermarkets push self service and banks push internet banking and transfers rather than paying in chèques, and why I bought a loader rather than pay guys to cut up and handball wood into the truck.

They want more profit, less overheads, like all of us.

Now if you lot have some cotton mills to smash up, don’t let me stop you.

 

[Stubby]

32 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Well not to delve into Moonbat territory but spunking that much on Smartmeters and the almost constant bombardment of advertising/propaganda to have one installed coupled with the slow but sure enforcement to have one installed including only offering the best rates if you get one installed is clearly not for our benefit is it? 
 

If you look at how the Energy Companies, Offcom and the Government have held us in utter contempt during the supposed Energy Crisis you’d have to be deluded to believe that installing a Smart Meter is for the Consumers benefit at all. In fact the benefits touted for installing one is the supposed savings that come with their installation is purely from your own personal monitoring of your own personal usage. 
 

So only time will tell how the millions upon millions invested is clawed back and how it will be used in their favour. 

Yep I use no more or less than before the smart meter . I was on the cheapest tariff before the smart meter and still am .  I guess they save not having to pay a " walking " meter reader .

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Stubby said:

I guess they save not having to pay a " walking " meter reader .

There is that I guess. Time will tell I guess. 

[Mick Dempsey]

37 minutes ago, Macpherson said:

 

It's convenient, and to me convenience is the thin end of a very thin wedge.

Ok, Chuck your computer away and write us all a letter.

[doobin]

14 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Yep I use no more or less than before the smart meter . I was on the cheapest tariff before the smart meter and still am .  I guess they save not having to pay a " walking " meter reader .

I’ve never known anyone to physically come and read the meter. 

[Johnsond]

31 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

I have no idea who decides, it will probably be an AI algoritm, not so much to switch it off  but more to delay which households, on which phase, from the substation can start charging or heating. The aim is to spread the instantaneous load such that everyone gets the same time to charge or heat in the off peak period.

 

With wind, as at 19:45 26/12/22, providing half of UK electricity, 16GW worth, followed by nuclear from here and France doing 25% and gas gently providing 2.3GW  it may well be that the wind generators will need to be curtailed tonight when the demand drops and this unpredictability is the reason for wanting to shift loads to off peak periods. Plus of course the grid and distribution network has to cope too.

Wind energy  !!! The biggest most expensive stand alone mistake we are making.