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[Mark J]

From the link above:

 

Here's what I'm really struggling to understand. All I've ever heard from people, for years, is:

 

"bloody bankers and their bonuses"

"bloody rich and their offshore tax havens "

"bloody politicians with their lying and second homes"

“bloody corporations paying less tax than me”

"bloody Establishment, they're all in it together”

“it'll never change, there's no point in voting”

 

And quite rightly so, I said all the same things.

 

But then someone comes along that's different. He upsets the bankers and the rich. The Tory politicians hate him along with most of the labour politicians. The corporations throw more money at the politicians to keep him quiet. And the Establishment is visibly shaken. I've never seen the Establishment so genuinely scared of a single person.

 

So the media arm of the establishment gets involved. Theresa phones Rupert asking what he can do, and he tells her to keep her mouth shut, don't do the live debate, he'll sort this out. So the media goes into overdrive with:

 

“she's strong and stable”

“he's a clown”

“he's not a leader”

“look he can't even control his own party”

“he'll ruin the economy”

“how's he gonna pay for it all?!”

“AND he's a terrorist sympathiser, burn him, burn the terrorist sympathiser”

 

And what do we? We've waited forever for an honest politician to come along but instead of getting behind him we bow to the establishment like good little workers. They whistle and we do a little dance for them. We run around like hypnotised robots repeating headlines we've read, all nodding and agreeing. Feeling really proud of ourselves because we think we've came up with our very own first political opinion. But we haven't, we haven't came up with anything. This is how you tell. No matter where someone lives in the country, they're repeating the same headlines, word for word. From Cornwall to Newcastle people are saying:

 

“he's a clown”

“he’s a threat to the country”

“she's strong and stable”

“he'll take us back to the 70s”

 

And there's nothing else, there's no further opinion. There's no evidence apart from 1 radio 5 interview that isn't even concrete evidence, he actually condemns the violence of both sides in the interview. There's no data or studies or official reports to back anything up. Try and think really hard why you think he's a clown, other than the fact he looks like a geography teacher. (no offence geography teachers) because he hasn't done anything clownish from what I've seen.

 

And you're not on this planet if you think the establishment and the media aren't all in it together.

 

You think Richard Branson, who's quietly winning NHS contracts, wants Corbyn in?

You think Rupert Murdoch, who's currently trying to widen his media monopoly by buying sky outright, wants Jeremy in?

You think the Barclay brothers, with their offshore residencies, want him in?

You think Philip Green, who stole all the pensions from BHS workers and claims his wife owns Top Shop because she lives in Monaco, wants Corbyn in?

You think the politicians, both Labour and Tory, with their second homes and alcohol paid for by us, want him in?

You think Starbucks, paying near zero tax, wants him in?

You think bankers, with their multi million pound bonuses, want him in?

 

And do you think they don't have contact with May? Or with the media? You honestly think that these millionaires and billionaires are the sort of people that go “ah well, easy come easy go, it was nice while it lasted”?? I wouldn't be if my personal fortune was at risk, I'd be straight on the phone to Theresa May or Rupert Murdoch demanding this gets sorted immediately.

 

Because here's a man, a politician that doesn't lie - he can't lie - he could have said whatever would get him votes anytime he wanted but he hasn't. He lives in a normal house like us and uses the bus just like us. He's fought for justice and peace for nearly 40 years. He has no career ambitions. And his seat is untouchable. That's one of the greatest testimonies. No one comes close to removing him from his constituency, election after election.

 

His Manifesto is fully costed. It all adds up, yes there's some borrowing but that's just to renationalise the railway, you know we already subsidise them and they make profit yeah? One more time… WE subsidise the railway companies and they walk away with a profit, just try and grasp the level of piss taking going on there.

 

Unlike the Tory manifesto with a £9 billion hole, their figures don't even add up.

 

And it benefits all of us, young, old, working, disabled, everyone. The only people it hurts are the establishment, the rich, the bankers, the top 5% highest earners.

 

Good, screw them. It's long overdue.

[Vespasian]

Put more simply..............the politics of envy.

 

Its not envy on my part, I'm thinking more along the lines why revolutions happen..

 

Why what we're seeing is a revolution of sorts in Britain.. the hatred for the establishment thats been building up over the years..

 

is there a correlation between the earnings of the one percent and their apologists and the anti establishment feelings that got Trump elected and us out of Europe?...

 

somethin to think about I think..

[Richard 1234]

From the link above:

 

Here's what I'm really struggling to understand. All I've ever heard from people, for years, is:

 

"bloody bankers and their bonuses"

"bloody rich and their offshore tax havens "

"bloody politicians with their lying and second homes"

“bloody corporations paying less tax than me”

"bloody Establishment, they're all in it together”

“it'll never change, there's no point in voting”

 

And quite rightly so, I said all the same things.

 

But then someone comes along that's different. He upsets the bankers and the rich. The Tory politicians hate him along with most of the labour politicians. The corporations throw more money at the politicians to keep him quiet. And the Establishment is visibly shaken. I've never seen the Establishment so genuinely scared of a single person.

 

So the media arm of the establishment gets involved. Theresa phones Rupert asking what he can do, and he tells her to keep her mouth shut, don't do the live debate, he'll sort this out. So the media goes into overdrive with:

 

“she's strong and stable”

“he's a clown”

“he's not a leader”

“look he can't even control his own party”

“he'll ruin the economy”

“how's he gonna pay for it all?!”

“AND he's a terrorist sympathiser, burn him, burn the terrorist sympathiser”

 

And what do we? We've waited forever for an honest politician to come along but instead of getting behind him we bow to the establishment like good little workers. They whistle and we do a little dance for them. We run around like hypnotised robots repeating headlines we've read, all nodding and agreeing. Feeling really proud of ourselves because we think we've came up with our very own first political opinion. But we haven't, we haven't came up with anything. This is how you tell. No matter where someone lives in the country, they're repeating the same headlines, word for word. From Cornwall to Newcastle people are saying:

 

“he's a clown”

“he’s a threat to the country”

“she's strong and stable”

“he'll take us back to the 70s”

 

And there's nothing else, there's no further opinion. There's no evidence apart from 1 radio 5 interview that isn't even concrete evidence, he actually condemns the violence of both sides in the interview. There's no data or studies or official reports to back anything up. Try and think really hard why you think he's a clown, other than the fact he looks like a geography teacher. (no offence geography teachers) because he hasn't done anything clownish from what I've seen.

 

And you're not on this planet if you think the establishment and the media aren't all in it together.

 

You think Richard Branson, who's quietly winning NHS contracts, wants Corbyn in?

You think Rupert Murdoch, who's currently trying to widen his media monopoly by buying sky outright, wants Jeremy in?

You think the Barclay brothers, with their offshore residencies, want him in?

You think Philip Green, who stole all the pensions from BHS workers and claims his wife owns Top Shop because she lives in Monaco, wants Corbyn in?

You think the politicians, both Labour and Tory, with their second homes and alcohol paid for by us, want him in?

You think Starbucks, paying near zero tax, wants him in?

You think bankers, with their multi million pound bonuses, want him in?

 

And do you think they don't have contact with May? Or with the media? You honestly think that these millionaires and billionaires are the sort of people that go “ah well, easy come easy go, it was nice while it lasted”?? I wouldn't be if my personal fortune was at risk, I'd be straight on the phone to Theresa May or Rupert Murdoch demanding this gets sorted immediately.

 

Because here's a man, a politician that doesn't lie - he can't lie - he could have said whatever would get him votes anytime he wanted but he hasn't. He lives in a normal house like us and uses the bus just like us. He's fought for justice and peace for nearly 40 years. He has no career ambitions. And his seat is untouchable. That's one of the greatest testimonies. No one comes close to removing him from his constituency, election after election.

 

His Manifesto is fully costed. It all adds up, yes there's some borrowing but that's just to renationalise the railway, you know we already subsidise them and they make profit yeah? One more time… WE subsidise the railway companies and they walk away with a profit, just try and grasp the level of piss taking going on there.

 

Unlike the Tory manifesto with a £9 billion hole, their figures don't even add up.

 

And it benefits all of us, young, old, working, disabled, everyone. The only people it hurts are the establishment, the rich, the bankers, the top 5% highest earners.

 

Good, screw them. It's long overdue.

 

 

Have you been out in the sun too long today?

 

 

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[scotspine1]

From the link above:

 

Here's what I'm really struggling to understand. All I've ever heard from people, for years, is:

 

"bloody bankers and their bonuses"

"bloody rich and their offshore tax havens "

"bloody politicians with their lying and second homes"

“bloody corporations paying less tax than me”

"bloody Establishment, they're all in it together”

“it'll never change, there's no point in voting”

 

And quite rightly so, I said all the same things.

 

But then someone comes along that's different. He upsets the bankers and the rich. The Tory politicians hate him along with most of the labour politicians. The corporations throw more money at the politicians to keep him quiet. And the Establishment is visibly shaken. I've never seen the Establishment so genuinely scared of a single person.

 

So the media arm of the establishment gets involved. Theresa phones Rupert asking what he can do, and he tells her to keep her mouth shut, don't do the live debate, he'll sort this out. So the media goes into overdrive with:

 

“she's strong and stable”

“he's a clown”

“he's not a leader”

“look he can't even control his own party”

“he'll ruin the economy”

“how's he gonna pay for it all?!”

“AND he's a terrorist sympathiser, burn him, burn the terrorist sympathiser”

 

And what do we? We've waited forever for an honest politician to come along but instead of getting behind him we bow to the establishment like good little workers. They whistle and we do a little dance for them. We run around like hypnotised robots repeating headlines we've read, all nodding and agreeing. Feeling really proud of ourselves because we think we've came up with our very own first political opinion. But we haven't, we haven't came up with anything. This is how you tell. No matter where someone lives in the country, they're repeating the same headlines, word for word. From Cornwall to Newcastle people are saying:

 

“he's a clown”

“he’s a threat to the country”

“she's strong and stable”

“he'll take us back to the 70s”

 

And there's nothing else, there's no further opinion. There's no evidence apart from 1 radio 5 interview that isn't even concrete evidence, he actually condemns the violence of both sides in the interview. There's no data or studies or official reports to back anything up. Try and think really hard why you think he's a clown, other than the fact he looks like a geography teacher. (no offence geography teachers) because he hasn't done anything clownish from what I've seen.

 

And you're not on this planet if you think the establishment and the media aren't all in it together.

 

You think Richard Branson, who's quietly winning NHS contracts, wants Corbyn in?

You think Rupert Murdoch, who's currently trying to widen his media monopoly by buying sky outright, wants Jeremy in?

You think the Barclay brothers, with their offshore residencies, want him in?

You think Philip Green, who stole all the pensions from BHS workers and claims his wife owns Top Shop because she lives in Monaco, wants Corbyn in?

You think the politicians, both Labour and Tory, with their second homes and alcohol paid for by us, want him in?

You think Starbucks, paying near zero tax, wants him in?

You think bankers, with their multi million pound bonuses, want him in?

 

And do you think they don't have contact with May? Or with the media? You honestly think that these millionaires and billionaires are the sort of people that go “ah well, easy come easy go, it was nice while it lasted”?? I wouldn't be if my personal fortune was at risk, I'd be straight on the phone to Theresa May or Rupert Murdoch demanding this gets sorted immediately.

 

Because here's a man, a politician that doesn't lie - he can't lie - he could have said whatever would get him votes anytime he wanted but he hasn't. He lives in a normal house like us and uses the bus just like us. He's fought for justice and peace for nearly 40 years. He has no career ambitions. And his seat is untouchable. That's one of the greatest testimonies. No one comes close to removing him from his constituency, election after election.

 

His Manifesto is fully costed. It all adds up, yes there's some borrowing but that's just to renationalise the railway, you know we already subsidise them and they make profit yeah? One more time… WE subsidise the railway companies and they walk away with a profit, just try and grasp the level of piss taking going on there.

 

Unlike the Tory manifesto with a £9 billion hole, their figures don't even add up.

 

And it benefits all of us, young, old, working, disabled, everyone. The only people it hurts are the establishment, the rich, the bankers, the top 5% highest earners.

 

Good, screw them. It's long overdue.

 

 

Sanctimonious drivel from a half baked intellectual.

 

.

[Mark J]

Have you been out in the sun too long today?

 

 

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No mate, I've been getting bit by bastard clegs today, not too much sun.

 

The thing I posted was from the thing that Muttley posted earlier. I quite like it, even if it is as Scotspine says, "Sanctimonious drivel from a half baked intellectual."

[Richard 1234]

No mate, I've been getting bit by bastard clegs today, not too much sun.

 

The thing I posted was from the thing that Muttley posted earlier. I quite like it, even if it is as Scotspine says, "Sanctimonious drivel from a half baked intellectual."

 

 

Ok fair enough not looked at mutleys post.

I still can't work out why people care how much anyone else earns? It's not relevant in my opinion as each of us should be self sufficient as much as possible. Paying our bit and living out our lives. For the most part I could not care less what they bicker about in parliament!

 

 

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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Mark, if you think Corbyn is "honest" you're as misguided as Abbot is racist.

 

You're lapping up everything he says because you WANT to believe it.

 

He knows exactly what you want to believe and he's feeding it to you on a tray.

 

Watch him more closely, most of what he HAS to say (to avoid exposing what he WANTS to say) is crippling him inside.

 

He's being forced to contradict his very DNA to avoid exposing his TRUE colours.

 

If ever there was a more morally corrupt, deceitful, obtuse politician, I'd be at a loss to recall them.

 

Damn! I promised myself I wouldn't get drawn in to this again 😳

[stihlmadasever]

Mark, if you think Corbyn is "honest" you're as misguided as Abbot is racist.

 

You're lapping up everything he says because you WANT to believe it.

 

He knows exactly what you want to believe and he's feeding it to you on a tray.

 

Watch him more closely, most of what he HAS to say (to avoid exposing what he WANTS to say) is crippling him inside.

 

He's being forced to contradict his very DNA to avoid exposing his TRUE colours.

 

If ever there was a more morally corrupt, deceitful, obtuse politician, I'd be at a loss to recall them.

 

Damn! I promised myself I wouldn't get drawn in to this again 😳

 

Replace corbyn with may, replace he with she and your bang on.

[Mark J]

Kevin,

 

I understand your frustration.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Replace corbyn with may, replace he with she and your bang on.

 

 

How can 2 people look at the same thing and see the complete opposite?

 

It's a mad world! 😳