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[Mark J]

[Mark J]

Another Angry Voice

 

 

P&O Ferries, which claims to be "the UK's most popular ferry company", has fired their 800 UK seafaring staff with immediate effect, with the intention of replacing their jobs with agency workers on exploitative temporary contracts.

This is such a despicable attack on British workers that "P&O" must become synonymous with abusive labour practices.

Anyone who gives the slightest damn about the labour rights of British workers should boycott this atrocious company with immediate effect.

And if the Silent Knight wants to actually do something to make Labour look half-decent, vehement opposition to this kind of "fire and replace" strategy is a must, alongside guarantees that a Labour government would outlaw the practice of firing contracted staff to either rehire them on worse conditions, or replace their jobs with agency staff.

Millions of British workers need to be fully aware that if this kind of abusive employment practice continues to spread, their own jobs, wages, and working conditions will soon be under threat.

The backlash against P&O needs to be swift and vigorous.

Under this atrocious radical-right Tory government, other corporate profiteers will be tempted to try similar cost-cutting tactics, so P&O needs to serve as the warning that it is absolute reputational suicide for companies to attack their own workers.

[Johnsond]

44 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Do you have a Limited company?
If so, why?
If not, why did the IR35 change stitch you up so much?

I have a limited company mark yes. Why !! because for many years that’s the only way that offshore companies would employ you ie through an agency running as ltd or umbrella and also I currently run the Trakmet and CPCS work through it.  . I’ve explained the other part of your question numerous times, the client and the agency were avoiding employers NI by having us ltd and bending the employment rules to suit their interpretation. The Hmrc took the easy option and shafted the individuals rather than the two companies involved. I still run the ltd company, taxes and vat are all up to date but also do my self assessment every year again everything is up to date. I’m currently along with a number of guys in the same situation taking legal action against the agency, lack of due care and diligence etc on their part in relation to the way we were paid. 
In a nutshell HMRC ( looking at the situation retrospectively) said we should have been employed, the agency ( whom had an exclusive labour supply arrangement with the client) would not let you work except ltd or umbrella. Hmrc have acknowledged this but still say we should have been employed. RMT whom most of us are members of were utterly useless, didn’t want to know. 
There you go Mark it’s called nothing to hide bud 👍

Edited March 18, 2022 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

20 minutes ago, Mark J said:

My views on nationalisation have been aired plenty of times. But as is the case with the SNP under 21 free pass someone has to pay for it. 

Edited March 18, 2022 by Johnsond

[Mark J]

3 hours ago, Johnsond said:

I have a limited company mark yes. Why !! because for many years that’s the only way that offshore companies would employ you ie through an agency running as ltd or umbrella and also I currently run the Trakmet and CPCS work through it.  . I’ve explained the other part of your question numerous times, the client and the agency were avoiding employers NI by having us ltd and bending the employment rules to suit their interpretation. The Hmrc took the easy option and shafted the individuals rather than the two companies involved. I still run the ltd company, taxes and vat are all up to date but also do my self assessment every year again everything is up to date. I’m currently along with a number of guys in the same situation taking legal action against the agency, lack of due care and diligence etc on their part in relation to the way we were paid. 
In a nutshell HMRC ( looking at the situation retrospectively) said we should have been employed, the agency ( whom had an exclusive labour supply arrangement with the client) would not let you work except ltd or umbrella. Hmrc have acknowledged this but still say we should have been employed. RMT whom most of us are members of were utterly useless, didn’t want to know. 
There you go Mark it’s called nothing to hide bud 👍

Ok. So you have a Ltd company to take advantages of the opportunities of work you otherwise wouldn't have access to.
Why should my companies attract such sly comments from you and Brittney, when you were happy to play HMRC at their own game until they changed the rules? 
Does my situation differ to yours and if so, how?

Edited March 18, 2022 by Mark J

[Mark J]

3 hours ago, Johnsond said:

My views on nationalisation have been aired plenty of times. But as is the case with the SNP under 21 free pass someone has to pay for it. 

So what do you propose we do about it?

[Johnsond]

5 minutes ago, Mark J said:

So what do you propose we do about it?

About what ?

[Mark J]

10 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

About what ?

Re-nationalisation of infrastructure services. 

Exploitation of company owners by HMRC and their associates. 

Sly digs and behaviour to fellow LTD company owners who are just trying to play by the rules, like you were/are. 

Edited March 18, 2022 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

Re-nationalisation of infrastructure services. 

Exploitation of company owners by HMRC and their associates. 

Sly digs and behaviour to fellow LTD company owners who are just trying to play by the rules, like you were/are. 

The first time you posted was a fair question the second edited version is just indicative of how you roll Mark. You boast about paying bugger all tax yet give it the left wing socialist anti capitalist  warrior. Then tell me what happened to me and other guys isn’t relevant to the current P&O shambles,  even though we were let go and replaced by cheap foreign labour due to the EU open borders Labour policy. No sly digs from me Mark you use every loophole to lower your tax bill and maximise your profits which is indeed your entitlement.  That’s exactly what the twats have done to the 800 today. Is that plain enough for you. 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

10 hours ago, Mark J said:

Yup, UK workers for foreign companies lost their job security when we left the EU.

 

10 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Don’t blame Brexit for an issue that’s been going on for years Mark under loads of different governments. They didn’t have any security  in first place. 

I’ve been on vessels in UK sector/waters for years before brexit and it was and is predominantly foreign crews. Prebrexit ive been binned off jobs myself for In my case a Latvian replacement. Currently the whole wind farm situation is a joke, constructed overseas, installed by foreign vessels with foreign crews for in most  cases overseas companies. 

Like that complete W⚓️ James O'Brexit trying to make EVERYTHING that happens "a Brexit issue."  Utter knob cheese...