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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 hours ago, David Cropper said:

Well thought out and written. I thought I would end up argueing my corner with you. As to deer numbers on shooting estates, the numbers are vigorously controlled to ensure the wellbeing of the stock. A good stalker will establish good breeding animals, he will weed out the old and weak, leaving a healthy amount to carry on the species. There is only so much feed to go round for the numbers you decide can be sustainable. It is an art form getting it right. I realise there are estates who don't do things correctly or act in the best interests of the beasts on the ground, but they are in the minority.  I sincerely hope so.

Nothing to disagree with there sick note. 
 

The opposition to certain field ‘sports’ is not a season ticket to the Socialist Vegan Convention. It’s just a recognition that some elements of ‘country pursuits’ may be considered, genuinely, more justifiable than others. 

[Johnsond]

13 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Nothing to disagree with there sick note. 
 

The opposition to certain field ‘sports’ is not a season ticket to the Socialist Vegan Convention. It’s just a recognition that some elements of ‘country pursuits’ may be considered, genuinely, more justifiable than others. 

Not quite sure of the previous posts meanings but as I’ve said on a number of occasions the whole pheasant/grouse thing is totally and utterly  not my idea of a good days shooting. But if you’ve had any experience of legislative selective removal of personnel property etc and the rabid anti field sports mentality of many groups then the idea that some can be justified and others can’t is misguided. To these people any form of field sport and any form of civilian firearms ownership is totally unacceptable. You only need to watch that MSM Covid guidance disciple Piers Morgan in full flow and you can see what they would like to do regarding firearms ownership. 

Edited November 29, 2020 by Johnsond

[David Cropper]

3 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Still hunting here David, are you sure your lot have stopped?

Yes they have re started two weekends ago. I said last week that Charlie the dog bolted when he heard the guns and put me on my backside. What I meant, Mick, was that there has been an increase generally due to the stoppage. In the Foret de la Braconne by La Rochefaucaud and Camp American, a few years ago I was told that if the paying hunters didn't cull 300 per season, then the Army go in with automatic rifles.  When you drive through the forest,  lots of the verges look like a JCB has dug them up. The damage they do is incredible,  plus the amount of damaged vehicles caused by collisions with the pigs.

[Johnsond]

57 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Nothing to disagree with there sick note. 
 

The opposition to certain field ‘sports’ is not a season ticket to the Socialist Vegan Convention. It’s just a recognition that some elements of ‘country pursuits’ may be considered, genuinely, more justifiable than others. 

Not quite sure of the previous posts meanings but as I’ve said on a number of occasions the whole pheasant/grouse thing is totally and utterly  not my idea of a good days shooting. But if you’ve had any experience of legislative selects removal of personnel property etc and the rabid anti field sports mentality of many groups then the idea that some can be justified and others can’t is misguided. To these people any form of field sport and any form of civilian firearms ownership is totally unacceptable. You only need to watch that MSM Covid guidance disciple Piers Morgan in full flow and you can see what they would like to do regarding firearms ownership. 

[Mick Dempsey]

The boars are powerful animals, they’re in our fields oftimes  turning it over looking for worms.

 

I am pretty sure it’s them turning over my chip pile looking for stag beetle larvae.

 

I understand that too many is an issue but I love seeing them and having them about is a privilege.

 

 

[Khriss]

3 hours ago, Youngstu said:

I have absolutely no issue with deer and other pest species being killed/culled/controlled.... 

If they  are tasty.  ? K

[The avantgardener]

27 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

The boars are powerful animals, they’re in our fields oftimes  turning it over looking for worms.

 

I am pretty sure it’s them turning over my chip pile looking for stag beetle larvae.

 

I understand that too many is an issue but I love seeing them and having them about is a privilege.

 

 

One of the Woodland Trust sites  near me at Brede had developed a problem with Boar. They escaped from Paul McCartneys place a few years ago and bred like hell, then started to come into conflict with dog walkers. I used to see them often when knapsack spraying the Rhododendron in Autumn, stunning animals. They have been culling the numbers on a controlled basis year by year, but they are not removing them entirely.

Some moron decided to release a whole family of Potbelly’s there when they had obviously got a bit much to look after. These pigs had been reared with humans so would gather round whenever anybody was having a picnic, they ended up with their own Facebook page.

In the end they where rounded up by an abattoir owner from, of all places, ‘Ham Street’.

[woodwizzard]

Darth Vader has passed away. Probably a joke about masks not working there somewhere ?

[Youngstu]

15 hours ago, Johnsond said:

I think you will find the impact modern farming methods make to the ecological balance of the countryside are thousands of times more harmful than the shooting you describe. My point is and your comments confirm what I said is that people whom are not affected by it don’t care. Like I say it’s not my thing, tweeds and expensive shotguns but it won’t be a sensible focused bit of legislation as in all things firearms and shooting control it will instead  be a knee jerk pandering to the urban left whom despise the countryside and in many cases have zero idea of the husbandry involved in maintaining it. Unless you are a FAC holder and have been on the receiving end of totally unjustified legislation then it’s difficult to realise how easy it is for governments to just legislate a minority sport out of existence. 
 

Before I start, not looking for a row, just interested...?

What restrictions have you had placed on you and your firearm activities, and what was the reasoning behind it, and why was those decisions wrong from your point of view?

What further restrictions do you anticipate could be imposed on yourself and other firearm users if those without the appropriate understanding of rural issues have their way? 

 

[Johnsond]

6 minutes ago, Youngstu said:

Before I start, not looking for a row, just interested...?

What restrictions have you had placed on you and your firearm activities, and what was the reasoning behind it, and why was those decisions wrong from your point of view?

What further restrictions do you anticipate could be imposed on yourself and other firearm users if those without the appropriate understanding of rural issues have their way? 

 

You are showing either your age or a total lack of base knowledge of the subject in hand. The info you require is easy to source online and many on here whom are or were  shooters will know full well the impact of a succession of firearms amendments starting with semi auto full bore then pistols and recently MARS type eqpt. My point is because it was and is a minority sport it’s easy to chip away at each discipline with relatively little opposition. Death by a thousand cuts and all that regardless of it being one of the safest and most stringently regulated activities an individual can partake in.