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1 hour ago, Stubby said:

Well said Isambard !

He dont even know who Isambard is!  Actually its a good start for any history thread. Died quite young. K

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Lots might not know who he was, some will know he was on top of civil engineering back in the day. Whether it be bridges, tunnels or rail, he knew his onions. That said, he did get it massively wrong more than once.

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21 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Lots might not know who he was, some will know he was on top of civil engineering back in the day. Whether it be bridges, tunnels or rail, he knew his onions. That said, he did get it massively wrong more than once.

And Ships ?

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1 hour ago, roboted said:

And Ships ?

You beat me to it!

 

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A recent popular poll placed Isambard Kingdom Brunel as the second Greatest Briton of all time. He was without doubt...

If you read all of that article Egger, right to the end, there is 1 piece of legendary history missing from the tale they tell....

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21 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

You beat me to it!

 

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A recent popular poll placed Isambard Kingdom Brunel as the second Greatest Briton of all time. He was without doubt...

If you read all of that article Egger, right to the end, there is 1 piece of legendary history missing from the tale they tell....

It will have to be tomorrow if careful consideration is needed, beer and women folk have done with today.

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Interesting.....

 

It seems to have become even more prevalent of late.  Over the last couple of days I’d actually started watching TV ads - not out of interest in the products - but rather to assess ‘diversity’ of representation. 
 

Try it and see what conclusions you draw. 
 

There is a noticeable imbalance when comparing BAME representation in TV advertising to that which I see all around me. 
 

On the one hand, it is apparent that it is very rare to see a TV advert WITHOUT BAME representation, but my lived experience is that I could literally go weeks / months without actually seeing any. 
 

If Breitbart is unpalatable, it’s also in the Times and featured on BBC Politics Live - just for balance. 
 

The figures are clear enough, there is an OVER representation of certain groups in relation to national demographic. 

 

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A survey of the TV industry found that, contrary to popular belief among "woke" commentators, gays and minorities are...

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Interesting.....

 

It seems to have become even more prevalent of late.  Over the last couple of days I’d actually started watching TV ads - not out of interest in the products - but rather to assess ‘diversity’ of representation. 
 

Try it and see what conclusions you draw. 
 

There is a noticeable imbalance when comparing BAME representation in TV advertising to that which I see all around me. 
 

On the one hand, it is apparent that it is very rare to see a TV advert WITHOUT BAME representation, but my lived experience is that I could literally go weeks / months without actually seeing any. 
 

If Breitbart is unpalatable, it’s also in the Times and featured on BBC Politics Live - just for balance. 
 

The figures are clear enough, there is an OVER representation of certain groups in relation to national demographic. 

 

WWW.BREITBART.COM

A survey of the TV industry found that, contrary to popular belief among "woke" commentators, gays and minorities are...

 

 

 

It does make interesting reading, but is there really an issue with overrepresentation of minorities (is it a problem if there is overrepresentation) ?

 

If minorities aren't overrepresented then it would (as in the past) seem like the token individuals being included. 

Where we live in the country will also determine how we view this in terms of representing what we know. Living in the South West there are relatively small numbers of BAME individuals so many programmes are unrepresentative of what I see around me, but even with overrepresentation on a national level there would be people around the country who would feel that the levels quoted in the article were underrepresenting groups that they see around them. 

I would argue that in all likelihood over the last half a century minorities have generally been underrepresented on screen in particular and many minorities were probably underrepresented behind the scenes too. Considering this overrepresentation at this time could be a good thing for the general population, raising the profile and importance of BAME people in the country as a whole.  Its also considered to be very important for minorities to be visible in all areas of society so that children and adults  from those minorities see "people like them" in different roles. This is considered by many to be very helpful in improving ambitions and motivations where others from their communities are not seen to be good role models and help towards breaking cycles of crime, antisocial behaviour etc. 

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4 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Interesting.....

 

It seems to have become even more prevalent of late.  Over the last couple of days I’d actually started watching TV ads - not out of interest in the products - but rather to assess ‘diversity’ of representation. 
 

Try it and see what conclusions you draw. 
 

There is a noticeable imbalance when comparing BAME representation in TV advertising to that which I see all around me. 
 

On the one hand, it is apparent that it is very rare to see a TV advert WITHOUT BAME representation, but my lived experience is that I could literally go weeks / months without actually seeing any. 
 

If Breitbart is unpalatable, it’s also in the Times and featured on BBC Politics Live - just for balance. 
 

The figures are clear enough, there is an OVER representation of certain groups in relation to national demographic. 

 

WWW.BREITBART.COM

A survey of the TV industry found that, contrary to popular belief among "woke" commentators, gays and minorities are...

 

 

 

Adverts, Amazon. The Beeb, Netflix, you name it. All press the right buttons and raise the right flags to keep the vocal minority happy. 

 

Hopefully the line ''get woke go broke'' actually pans out. I try my best to avoid these shows and if its an advert the products they are trying to flog. 

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