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[Mark Bolam]

I am Parliament.

 

 

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[Richard 1234]

The Russians are rumoured to have an interesting approach to justice as well. Seemingly the Russians like kidnapping the sons of terrorists, killing them, cutting their testicles off, placing them in the mouth of the son's body and returning the body to the father.

 

 

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/rrpbcrbook_annex_a.html

 

An interesting read for you and your friends

 

 

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[the village idiot]

So Matelot, we incarcerate 3000 people on watch lists. Then what?

 

This may well be anathema to Matelot but one option to stop the spread of extremism (and bad faith based ideas in general) might well be to help develop the nations that produce terrorists.

Punishing the potential criminals in the UK will surely achieve next to nothing in the long term. We need to try and change the way these people think, globally.

 

There is a well proven correlation between development, reason and stability.

 

Much of the developed world has progressed to a point where religious groups are little more than social clubs- with ever dwindling memberships.

 

"Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark, and the United Kingdom are among the least religious societies on earth. According to the United Nations’ Human Development Report (2005) they are also the healthiest, as indicated by life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate, and infant mortality. Insofar as there is a crime problem in Western Europe, it is largely the product of immigration. Seventy percent of the inmates of France’s jails, for instance, are Muslim. The Muslims of Western Europe are generally not atheists. Conversely, the fifty nations now ranked lowest in terms of the United Nations’ human development index are unwaveringly religious."

 

Harris, Sam. Letter To A Christian Nation (Kindle Locations 477-483). Transworld. Kindle Edition.

 

The US bucks this trend quite spectacularly. I have no idea why.

 

 

As a rule, as countries become more developed they become less religious. Interestingly, countries with low religiosity are also the most charitable "both in terms of the percentage of their wealth they devote to social welfare programs and the percentage they give in aid to the developing world."

 

Harris, Sam. Letter To A Christian Nation (Kindle Locations 502-503). Transworld. Kindle Edition.

 

It is surely undeniable that these terrorist attacks are relgiously motivated. If we can help make countries more developed, and make them less religious as a natural consequence, they will attack us less (or not at all) as their primary motive has been removed.

 

We have to stop this problem at source, not just punish the result.

[skyhuck]

Katie Hopkins has got the boot, with this and her loosing in the twitter libel case, it's really not been her year.

 

This clip pretty must sums her up.

 

 

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[the village idiot]

Katie Hopkins has got the boot, with this and her loosing in the twitter libel case, it's really not been her year.

 

This clip pretty must sums her up.

 

 

 

Nice to see some good news for a change. Well done 'huck!

[Duncansimpson]

The Russians are rumoured to have an interesting approach to justice as well. Seemingly the Russians like kidnapping the sons of terrorists, killing them, cutting their testicles off, placing them in the mouth of the son's body and returning the body to the father.

 

 

Wouldn't it just be great if people like you ran this country. All our problems would be solved.

[Mark J]

This may well be anathema to Matelot but one option to stop the spread of extremism (and bad faith based ideas in general) might well be to help develop the nations that produce terrorists.

Punishing the potential criminals in the UK will surely achieve next to nothing in the long term. We need to try and change the way these people think, globally.

 

There is a well proven correlation between development, reason and stability.

 

Much of the developed world has progressed to a point where religious groups are little more than social clubs- with ever dwindling memberships.

 

"Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark, and the United Kingdom are among the least religious societies on earth. According to the United Nations’ Human Development Report (2005) they are also the healthiest, as indicated by life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate, and infant mortality. Insofar as there is a crime problem in Western Europe, it is largely the product of immigration. Seventy percent of the inmates of France’s jails, for instance, are Muslim. The Muslims of Western Europe are generally not atheists. Conversely, the fifty nations now ranked lowest in terms of the United Nations’ human development index are unwaveringly religious."

 

Harris, Sam. Letter To A Christian Nation (Kindle Locations 477-483). Transworld. Kindle Edition.

 

The US bucks this trend quite spectacularly. I have no idea why.

 

 

As a rule, as countries become more developed they become less religious. Interestingly, countries with low religiosity are also the most charitable "both in terms of the percentage of their wealth they devote to social welfare programs and the percentage they give in aid to the developing world."

 

Harris, Sam. Letter To A Christian Nation (Kindle Locations 502-503). Transworld. Kindle Edition.

 

It is surely undeniable that these terrorist attacks are relgiously motivated. If we can help make countries more developed, and make them less religious as a natural consequence, they will attack us less (or not at all) as their primary motive has been removed.

 

We have to stop this problem at source, not just punish the result.

Heretic.

 

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[RichieR]

Wouldn't it just be great if people like you ran this country. All our problems would be solved.

 

Well definitely a few less that's for sure

[matelot]

As a rule, as countries become more developed they become less religious. Interestingly, countries with low religiosity are also the most charitable "both in terms of the percentage of their wealth they devote to social welfare programs and the percentage they give in aid to the developing world."

 

It is surely undeniable that these terrorist attacks are relgiously motivated. If we can help make countries more developed, and make them less religious as a natural consequence, they will attack us less (or not at all) as their primary motive has been removed.

 

We have to stop this problem at source, not just punish the result.

 

I'd argue that development happens after a society becomes less religious.... Having members of a society praying etc means less time for more productive pursuits...

 

Muslims read the Koran and are told that they are God's chosen people. When they look at the world they see that Muslim nations are poor, so many of them believe that the West is in league with Satan. If you think they want to become developed like the West you are mistaken. For them Muhammed was the perfect man and had the perfect lifestyle. That's why the Taliban etc banned radios and other western technology.

 

Muslims believe that the Koran is the literal word of God. It's quite clear in the Koran that it's the duty of Muslims to attack non believers. The Koran also has passages that makes it clear anyone that tries to change the Koran should be resisted.

 

Quite frankly any Muslim that tries to make the Koran less violent will be killed.

 

Tbh, I don't see any easy way forward....

[Rough Hewn]

Anyone ever read 2000AD?

Judge death quote:

" only the living commit crimes. Living is a crime!"

Great logic?

Now look back over previous comments.

Sadly for most people logic and rational are merely words.

 

 

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