Making the news today....

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

22 hours ago, difflock said:

Eh!

Was that ‘Eh!’ a question, an exclamation or a kind of NI version of a Parisian ‘Mheh!’

Was it intended as a response to the preceding post or was it just some kind of involuntary body function, like a tick or a stammer, or a twitch....

 

Is it something I should attempt to address?

 

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Edited August 6, 2020 by kevinjohnsonmbe

[difflock]

What!

or

Wot!

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

21 minutes ago, difflock said:

What!

or

Wot!

Ah, bullox....  This could go on longer than the thread it’s in....

 

Im not playing!

[Khriss]

Absolutely appaling. Am amazed not more that three people killed. 

 

Three dead after passenger train derails

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The driver, a conductor and a passenger were killed in the incident in Aberdeenshire.

 

 

Missed the rail then hit the landslide . K

[nepia]

Not good at all.

 

The way I read it the driver stopped for a landslide and had to back up.  In the time since moving forward over that stretch of track there's been another slip behind the train; that was the one that the train hit.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 hours ago, Khriss said:

Absolutely appaling. Am amazed not more that three people killed. 

 

Three dead after passenger train derails

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The driver, a conductor and a passenger were killed in the incident in Aberdeenshire.

 

 

Missed the rail then hit the landslide . K

 

1 hour ago, nepia said:

Not good at all.

 

The way I read it the driver stopped for a landslide and had to back up.  In the time since moving forward over that stretch of track there's been another slip behind the train; that was the one that the train hit.

“Lucky” casualties / loss of life was lower than might have been the case if train had been at ‘normal’ capacity. 
 

Makes me think about the argument for guards on trains that has been the source of such bitter dispute between unions and operating companies. 
 

Was there a guard / second staff member on the train that could have acted as remote eyes for a reversing train? 
 

It’s all very well seeking to drive down operating costs but certain sectors just have to have elements of ‘redundancy’ built into the system where consequence of failure is socially unacceptable. 

[monkeybusiness]

1 hour ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

 

“Lucky” casualties / loss of life was lower than might have been the case if train had been at ‘normal’ capacity. 
 

Makes me think about the argument for guards on trains that has been the source of such bitter dispute between unions and operating companies. 
 

Was there a guard / second staff member on the train that could have acted as remote eyes for a reversing train? 
 

It’s all very well seeking to drive down operating costs but certain sectors just have to have elements of ‘redundancy’ built into the system where consequence of failure is socially unacceptable. 

I heard that the guard and the driver were two of the three who didn’t walk away.

[Khriss]

@kevinjohnsonmbe always my argument with her, who hates unions- no way any train should be operated by just one person. Most tube trains are completely automatic anyway...... until something goes wrong  ( then it's carry on till next station fr station staff to tackle it -  all one of them usually ! )   k

[openspaceman]

9 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Was there a guard / second staff member on the train that could have acted as remote eyes for a reversing train? 
 

 

We'll have to wait for the report because there are a number of confusing things being said or shown, the standing engine is the back one  and it looks like the front one is in the gully and burned out with one carriage and then two carriages of four inverted on top. The train seems to be on the down line but there is a report that it changed lines to avoid an earlier flooded section

 

When I was liaison on a goods train during a possession with engine front and back both engines were idling all the time and we swapped driving positions each time we changed direction in order never to have to reverse.

[Stere]

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It’s all very well seeking to drive down operating costs but certain sectors just have to have elements of ‘redundancy’ built into the system where consequence of failure is socially unacceptable. 

Sounds like leftist red tape to me  namby  pamby health and safetyism  attempting to mitigate all risk. ?

 

Doubt the driver was reversing blind without relocating to "back" surely not that would be foolish?

 

Push–pull train - Wikipedia

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Edited August 13, 2020 by Stere