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9 hours ago, Billhook said:

 

These figures only go up to 2010 but in 2014 and 2017 there were 45,000 and 50,000 excess deaths and we never heard a word about it

The 1951 figure is over 100,000!

 

WWW.ONS.GOV.UK

Annual figures of excess winter...

 

Excess winter mortality1, England and Wales2, 1950/1951 to 2009/20103

   
Winter EWM
1950/1951  106,400
1951/1952 44,950
1952/1953 82,670
1953/1954 47,180
1954/1955 64,670
1955/1956 67,560
1956/1957 29,080
1957/1958 57,780
1958/1959 77,920
1959/1960 41,060
1960/1961 68,880
1961/1962 68,820
1962/1963 89,600
1963/1964 49,510
1964/1965 41,730
1965/1966 57,120
1966/1967 25,990
1967/1968 70,260
1968/1969 50,630
1969/1970 67,790
1970/1971 34,110
1971/1972 46,270
1972/1973 46,630
1973/1974 34,710
1974/1975 31,920
1975/1976 58,100
1976/1977 34,590
1977/1978 41,240
1978/1979 48,490
1979/1980 30,120
1980/1981 32,900
1981/1982 42,380
1982/1983 42,820
1983/1984 30,240
1984/1985 47,380
1985/1986 49,330
1986/1987 26,370
1987/1988 32,970
1988/1989 21,160
1989/1990 47,200
1990/1991 37,940
1991/1992 34,850
1992/1993 25,650
1993/1994 25,900
1994/1995 27,290
1995/1996 40,190
1996/1997 47,690
1997/1998 22,900
1998/1999 46,840
1999/2000 48,440
2000/2001 24,840
2001/2002 27,230
2002/2003 23,970
2003/2004 23,450
2004/2005 31,640
2005/2006 25,270
2006/2007 23,740
2007/2008 24,690
2008/2009 36,450
2009/2010 25,400

I made that very same point way, way back when.... ??

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11 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

It’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good. As they say.
 

My Brother in law’s estate agency business has gone into overdrive since the deconfinement due to metropolitan sorts looking to move to the provinces because they want to own a bigger house with a garden, rather than a hugely expensive flat in a city centre. Increased internet capacity and fast rail networks help in that regard as well.

 

Businesses are realizing that many workers can work from home permanently so the daily commute for many is over for good. More time for family and garden. Better for the environment.

 

Anyone got any other silver linings?

 

 

 

People spending more time with family, actually taking the time to phone/videocall grandparents etc.

People getting fitter, cycling/exercising at home.

Cooking with the family instead of eating take out food.

Lots of little things that I'm worried people will disregard because they're not thousands of pounds better off over the lockdown.

To quote one of my favourite films "The little things, there's nothing bigger is there"

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A lot less time spent travelling to and from work.

A holiday (finally) booked on a narrow boat... always wanted to do it but I’ve never been able to persuade the mrs.. as the UK weather is too much of a gamble..

More time to practice on the drum kit..

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36 minutes ago, woodwizzard said:

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I think there has mostly been enough food for everyone, just look at the waste in the Western World.  We farmers chuck out fruit and veg at our end that have slight blemishes, the supermarkets chuck out anything past its sell by date even though it would be seen as luxury food to the starving.

The problem has usually been wars, dictatorial regimes and extreme weather and in all cases the logistics of actually getting the food to the people that need it on time is nearly impossible.

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